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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal

Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:03 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:03 am to
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People are missing this point. She wasn't given the opportunity to have a fair shake on all the evidence.


No trial with standard evidentiary rules will ever be enough for y'all.

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a show trial

Lake got her show trial, you mean.

Now she can continue to play victim and got TWO whole social media gotchas. The America First way!
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:06 am to
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Now she can continue to play victim and got TWO whole social media gotchas. The America First way!




PLEASE SEND MONEY NOW!
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:11 am to
Wow… Shocker…
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:12 am to
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PLEASE SEND MONEY NOW!


Krakens are expensive, apparently
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:23 am to
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Krakens are expensive, apparently


She even tweeted that defense is expensive with a link to her site to donate money

She must mean it’s expensive to pay back Maricopa county for the other numerous legal fees her attorneys are being forced by a judge to now pay for previous suits the judge tossed. Add to that the others she may have to pay if she is sanctioned for the recent failed trial.

But idiots will continue to donate to her “defense fund”
This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:26 am to
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quote:But you all claimed Don losing his debate against Joe moved the polls


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I didn't. I said the first debate was an utter shite show and a terrible performance by Trump. It didn't help or hurt anyone other than the Platonic ideal of a democratic system. Biden was incoherent and Trump was just throwing random attempt at haymakers for social media.


I would argue that the first debate badly hurt Trump. It wasn’t any policy position that did it though. It was because Trump came off really angry and unhinged. That turned people off. That fits with your point though that debates are not about policy but appearances and sound bites.

It’s been like that since Nixon and Kennedy debated. Nixon was considered the winner by those who listened on the radio. Kennedy won among television viewers as Nixon came off as sweaty and shifty.

Our debates now are only appearances. Hobbs knew she wouldn’t beat Lake in that arena as Lake was a literal professional there. What’s a candidate to do? Don’t debate is the obvious answer. If you walk into a part of the campaign in which you are clearly overmatched when you don’t have to do so, that’s just political suicide.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:27 am to
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Now she can continue to play victim and got TWO whole social media gotchas. The America First way!


She will prey on people who think changing their printer settings is difficult.

She already tweeted something about it.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:35 am to
She will continue to use the Trump playbook.

Difference is though…trump actually won something (2016 election) Lake hasn’t won shite

Also….Trump has $$$, Lake is a failed unemployed reporter.

It was funny here when they had that recent MAGA convention here in PHX last weekend. At first they wanted like $700 a pop to go. Lake on billboards promoting a half off code that you could use to “only” pay $350 for it.

Not enough must have taken that “ amazing offer” cause a few days before she was promoting her “AZ local special” where it was now $20 to go if you lived here.
This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:39 am to
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Could she have even focused on chain of title with the way this judge set up the trial?

I don't think it would have gotten her anywhere. Reality is that while chain of custody needs to be tightened up, and I don't see why any adjudication process isn't livestreamed with a camera zoomed in so detail can be viewed (for transparency's sake), she was never going to get to a revote arguing chain of custody or fraud in the adjudication step because the process was monitored by representatives of the Lake campaign/RNC. Her only hope was to show that 30K+ disaffected voters didn't show up at the polls or left them before voting due to printer/tabulator issues.

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People are missing this point. She wasn't given the opportunity to have a fair shake on all the evidence.

We're not talking about some little piece of evidence hiding in a crack somewhere. If there were truly 30K+ disenfranchised voters, it would have been provable in the amount of time her team had.

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This judge did just enough for a show trial and punt.

What he should have done differently?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17303 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:45 am to
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We tried to tell you that your emotions wouldn't override the law.




The status quo overrode the law. I said on numerous occasions - her winning should have happened. It didn’t- bc of the sheer inertia of the status quo. It’s sad.

The result sucks, and it will stick. Unfortunately for the people of Arizona, and really for the rest of the country bc the state is going to be overrun by drug cartels shortly. Congratulations to Katie Hobbs and her invisible mandate full of dead people and corrupt bureaucrats.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:47 am to
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$700
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$350
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$20




Damn. It's even more sad than I thought.

People, stop giving these grifters money and buy your kids something nicer for Christmas.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:49 am to
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The status quo overrode the law.


Yawn.

You're supplementing wishcasting with an amateur interpretation of the law.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:00 am to
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You're supplementing wishcasting with an amateur interpretation of the law.
Not fair, IMO.

Wednesday usually provides some solid legal analysis. For some reason, she just lost all objectivity on MAGA-related issues about three years ago.

Honestly, it was weird to watch it in real time.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:04 am to
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Not fair, IMO.


That's fine.

On this, she was way off.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22770 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:08 am to
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People, stop giving these grifters money and buy your kids something nicer for Christmas.


Exactly but these idiots still fall for it.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:19 am to
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she just lost all objectivity on MAGA-related issues about three years ago.


I think she is still waiting for Powell to release the Kraken. She was all full of Powell worship during that time

Isn’t Powell close to being disbarred? Or have they done it already?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14523 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:23 am to
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Difference is though…trump actually won something (2016 election) Lake hasn’t won shite

Also….Trump has $$$, Lake is a failed unemployed reporter.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:24 am to
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I think she is still waiting for Powell to release the Kraken. She was all full of Powell worship during that time
I think it started with her odd crush on Bill Barr.

When she started calling him “sexy,“ I was afraid that it was time for an intervention.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:25 am to
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People, stop giving these grifters money and buy your kids something nicer for Christmas.


Guess it’s not enough for Lake to get a substantial amount of money from the my pillow guy to pay her legal fees….she has to ask from her fans as well. Never mind some of her uneducated base may be struggling financially…doesn’t matter…Lake needs $$$
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:31 am to
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Never mind some of her uneducated base may be struggling financially

I guess that's why all the counties below the poverty line are blue? Guessing you're not so educated yourself. And FWIW, I'd take the advice of a GOP-voting business owner who's retired at 45 over a Democrat-voting dumbass with PhD in Transsexual Swahili Haikus.
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