re: Bovino just told reporters the suspect was on scene several minutes interfering...

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She had also been standing in the middle of the road interfering with traffic,

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When the agent began crossing the street, she was not.

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hence the officer shoving her towards the sidewalk.

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How could be be both in the middle of the road and on the sidewalk?

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but we don't know how long she had been interfering with the operation, how many warnings she had or had not been given, or what her previous interactions with law enforcement had been.

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Most of this is irrelevant.

So I am going to lay it out step by step for you.

- Walz called for people to take to the streets.
- His campaign strategist begins organizing via Signal.
- The LT Gov becomes an Admin for this Signal group.
- A state Sen gives details on locations and tactics of ICE
- Another Dem creates a data base to DOX ICE.

As a reporter noted, this is massively organized.

- The resistance begins training people to confront ICE
- They begin attacking ICE
- They start impeding their movements.
- AND WALZ continues to advocate for more.

- ANTIFA "General" of Mn calls on people to shot ICE after.....
- AG states that people can shoot ICE under "stand your Ground" laws.

- The misson begins to go after ICE (btw.. it's all documented).
- Lady runs over ICE agent causing 36 stitches.
- Lady runs over ICE causing internal bleeding and she is shot and died.

- WALZ goes public again calling for more of it. States ICE is not LEO.

- Attacks increase on ICE.
- Mn PD is over ran and retreats. Walz blames ICE.

- Guy shows up to a LEO enforcement by USING Signal. He directs traffic and is involved.
- He approaches ICE/BP.
- Guy attempts to intervene in a situation and is taken down to the ground.
- Video proves that an agent yells GUN GUN... a shot goes off, a brief pause and then more shots fired.

First and foremost, laws prohibit the behavior of the Gov and the people on the streets. You do not have the right to impede or remotely obstruct LEO enforcement. PERIOD.

More so, the SCOTUS has long ruled.

In cases where an officer uses deadly force, Graham v. Connor remains the foundational standard. The Supreme Court ruled that an officer's actions must be judged from the perspective of a "reasonable officer on the scene," not with the "20/20 vision of hindsight."

If a reasonable agent in 2026 fears "doxing" or physical retaliation because a governor has told citizens to "get in their faces," the law allows that agent to take protective measures to protect themselves.

All that matters is whether the objective facts of the situation—such as a hostile crowd or a public call for resistance. Walz calling ICE agents "Gestapo" and urging citizens to "witness" and "resist," Walz is attempting to frame the agents' actions as a violation of civil rights and that created a dangerous environment.

That ruling was just used and the SCOTUS reaffirmed it and EXPANDED it:

Barnes v. Felix.

Supreme Court struck down the "moment-of-threat" rule. Previously, some courts only looked at the exact second a shot was fired or a mask was worn.

Now, courts must look at the "totality of the circumstances" leading up to the event.

As an "Attorney" you should already know this.

None of this matters by the way. They took his gun away and then shot him after that.

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It's largely killed rational rhetoric online.

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Refuses to acknowledge macro level obstructive and combative environment being purposely created and wants to speak about rational rhetoric.

Adorable clown man masquerading as logical observer ;)

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As an "Attorney" you should already know this.

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I do. Like with most of the facts being repeated by NPCs, most of your post was not relevant to the analysis.

The totality standard doesn't mean you can go back in time to look at any potential external factor over years or decades. Graham v. Connor removed the subjective evaluation for the objective/reasonableness test. The underlying appellate court relied on a subjective test.

This analysis doesn't mean you look at things like this

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- Walz called for people to take to the streets.
- His campaign strategist begins organizing via Signal.
- The LT Gov becomes an Admin for this Signal group.
- A state Sen gives details on locations and tactics of ICE
- Another Dem creates a data base to DOX ICE.

As a reporter noted, this is massively organized.

- The resistance begins training people to confront ICE
- They begin attacking ICE
- They start impeding their movements.
- AND WALZ continues to advocate for more.

- ANTIFA "General" of Mn calls on people to shot ICE after.....
- AG states that people can shoot ICE under "stand your Ground" laws.

- The misson begins to go after ICE (btw.. it's all documented).
- Lady runs over ICE agent causing 36 stitches.
- Lady runs over ICE causing internal bleeding and she is shot and died.

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It doesn't even mean that the court is likely to consider the evidence described in OP. Probably from the shove, but, if expanded, from the point where the LEO started walking across the street. That's your box.

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None of this matters by the way. They took his gun away and then shot him after that.

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Was that his only gun and how did the shooting officer know?

You ignorant frick

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Was that his only gun and how did the shooting officer know?

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a. The LEO yells "gun" which leads to the shooting

b. If LEO didn't know of another weapon, how could they articulate an objective belief of fear of threat of death? I don't think you've thought about this as a standard applied across the board. Any detained person could theoretically have a weapon the LEO doesn't know about.

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None of this matters by the way. They took his gun away and then shot him after that.

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All of it matters

He was actively resisting

As soon as the gun was found he became an armed and dangerous individual resisting

He never stopped resisting and nobody there knows that the Sig was the only weapon on his person

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I agree the LEO fricked up

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If you're referring to MN LEO, then we're in agreement. Where have they been in all of this? They've allowed these paid, organized insurrectionists to show up and take over the city. Businesses are being affected. Roads are being blocked. Federal LEO is being obstructed.

If we know about the Signal chat and the resources, how does MN LEO not know this? Well, you have the leader of the state suggesting that people actively interfere and "put their bodies on the line." There's also the report that dozens of MPD resigned because they're tired of being told to stand down. The screen shot of the laptop with the order was being circulated.

Walz picked his side - the side against the federal govt.