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re: Bovino just told reporters the suspect was on scene several minutes interfering...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:40 pm to BCreed1
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:40 pm to BCreed1
Dude went looking for trouble and he found it.
He left the house with specific intent to go out and frick with the cops.
And he did.
All this is covid gaslighting mind-frick 2.0.
It's the same people.
He left the house with specific intent to go out and frick with the cops.
And he did.
All this is covid gaslighting mind-frick 2.0.
It's the same people.
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You are failing miserably. Like when you emotionally inserted words into the 14th amendment
I am a fan of intelligence and rationality
quote:You don't know jack crap about what's going on up there
this strategy is neither
quote:In your dreams
They're perfectly consistent
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:41 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
The dead guy then grabbed a woman to drag her back in front of the vehicle. Thats when ICE sprayed him, and them. The dead guy went into his back pack, and they saw the gun
Ok so you didn't see the video
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:42 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:It's still happening. There are about 100 dominos and the board loons keep complaining about the last domino falling. You're way, way downstream of what you need to be concerned about
Does not change the fact that he was shot and killed after being disarmed
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Ok so you didn't see the video
People that watched that part of the video commented that the dead guy was attacking her
Try again
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:43 pm to slackster
Your vagina never stops weeping
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Irrelevant
When the agent began crossing the street, she was not
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:blah blah blah stupid SFP stuff that makes no sense and has no bearing on the issue
Because the analysis of the legality.....
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
No I'm addressing your points directly, in totality.
You did not. You tried:
- Used years and decades when nobody even stated that.
- You then, with purpose or in ignorance, tried to Use Graham to combat what was laid out while ignore the fact that I was talking about Barnes.
You totally ignored Barnes. So no you didn't.
quote:
That's not the smoking gun you think it is. Nobody is arguing that the analysis wouldn't involve the actions from the shove, or, in the most expanded view, from when the LEO started crossing the street.
It will not be from the shove. It will be about the TOTALITY of events that have led to ICE being attacked and put in this position.
quote:
You just don't understand what it means. I'm trying to educate you, but I fear that's hopeless.
No. You lied and I called you on. Now you want to address it, but are still lying.
Does BARNES mandate the "totality of the circumstances" leading up to the event? It's a simple YES or NO.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:45 pm to Stat M Repairman
quote:
Dude went looking for trouble and he found it. He left the house with specific intent to go out and frick with the cops. And he did. All this is covid gaslighting mind-frick 2.0. It's the same people.
I’ve stopped giving a shite about these violent agitators. You can’t reason with crazy.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:51 pm to BCreed1
quote:
It will not be from the shove. It will be about the TOTALITY of events that have led to ICE being attacked and put in this position.
He been running around with his eyes closed since page 1, and absolutely REFUSES to even acknowledge it exists. Squirming around like a fricking retard for 10 pages.
Trying to pretend he isn't the same people who wanted us to believe that Renee Good was teleported into the middle of the street, surrounded by snarling rabid ICE agents.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
And that scene starts, likely, with the shove, or, at max, when the LEO starts crossing the street.
No, it doesn’t
It would start, at minimum, as the first contact is made. This all started by you saying that prior contact is irrelevant, which is as absurd as your attempt to try and box in the “scene”
A simple hypothetical, if outside the videos available, ICE had previously said “hey folks please leave” and the deceased said “no I won’t and I’ll kill you if you try to make me” - that would be relevant information that would affect a reasonable officers actions.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:54 pm to rocksteady
quote:
He been running around with his eyes closed since page 1, and absolutely REFUSES to even acknowledge it exists. Squirming around like a fricking retard for 10 pages.
Trying to pretend he isn't the same people who wanted us to believe that Renee Good was teleported into the middle of the street, surrounded by snarling rabid ICE agents.
Yep. He has now disappeared.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:58 pm to OceanMan
It's going to start way before then.
Fed will say that a dangerous environment was pushed for by the Gov, LT Gov, AG, and various leaders of MN. They incited people who then took to the street and they carried out acts of violence against agents.
At that point, Agents have a right to defend themselves and to use deadly force if needed.
It's not going to be about a "Moment" as the SCOTUS has ruled that is no longer the standard.
Fed will say that a dangerous environment was pushed for by the Gov, LT Gov, AG, and various leaders of MN. They incited people who then took to the street and they carried out acts of violence against agents.
At that point, Agents have a right to defend themselves and to use deadly force if needed.
It's not going to be about a "Moment" as the SCOTUS has ruled that is no longer the standard.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:00 pm to BCreed1
quote:
It will not be from the shove. It will be about the TOTALITY of events that have led to ICE being attacked and put in this position.
You don't understand the standard.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:02 pm to OceanMan
quote:
A simple hypothetical, if outside the videos available, ICE had previously said “hey folks please leave” and the deceased said “no I won’t and I’ll kill you if you try to make me” - that would be relevant information that would affect a reasonable officers actions.
You have to provide a lot more details like the time frame, superseding behaviors, etc.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:how about the standard of Gray hoodie placing herself in officers path on the other side of the street impeding the officer then follows him across the street and does it again impeding him at least a second time thus getting the shove. Granted, he should have just taken her to the ground and arrested her.
You don't understand the standard.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
...is a bad attempt at a point and would be a terrible standard for LEO.
The standard is whether or not the officer knew the deceased was armed. You keep repeating he was “disarmed”, and I’m trying to point out that he didn’t necessarily know that. You said (at least I think you were trying to say) that hearing “gun” caused the shooting, if the shooting officer saw an empty holster before he saw a gun, he may have assumed he had already drawn it.
The point is, all of that happened very quickly, he was resisting and did indeed have a gun and the shooting officer was not the one that “disarmed” him. All of that is relevant in both written and case law, you are wrong and being told this by basically everyone.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:05 pm to I20goon
At the point where she is shoved, she's posing no threat and not affecting his duties.
There was nothing operational on that side of the street for the LEOs. Moving there was about reactions/response/vengeance (whatever word you want to frame it) and not immigration duties.
There was nothing operational on that side of the street for the LEOs. Moving there was about reactions/response/vengeance (whatever word you want to frame it) and not immigration duties.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:05 pm to slackster
quote:
Well then he deserved to be shot.
Didn't deserve it but earned it. There is no doubt there. Everything he did lead him to that.
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