re: Bombing Civilians and war

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Ok then good. As a former Marine Officer you should damn sure be able to answer this question. How may times did you or anyone above or below you call in an Airstrike of a hospital, apartment building, grocery store or any other civilian target with no cause to do so? Did you ever call in artillery on any other civilian targets? You and I both know that you didn’t because it’s a war crime to just attack civilian targets. It would amount to an illegal order that no officer would follow because they would not wanna go to Leavenworth

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Yet, it’s happened dozens and dozens of times.

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Since WW2, it seems most civilized countries have tried to wage war without purposefully targeting civilians.

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which makes it odd more that we are "attacking" civilians from Russia with sanctions. Wimbledon is refusing to let Medvedev play in their tournament. Someone made the statement on here that this is fine because citizens are responsible for the actions of their government. So which is it?

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The allied bombing campaign was intended to break the will of the German and Japanese people’s, and end the war cheaply (for us). The idea went back to AirPower theorists in the 30s.

They overestimated the effectiveness of their weapon.

But it’s why we destroyed whole cities, and killed perhaps a million people.

The bombing campaigns didn’t work.

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The bombing campaigns did work.

Civilian populations encircle manufacturing sectors that produce the tools of war. It's the same in the US as it is in any other country. Those factories have to be destroyed to end the production that supplies the military. At the time of WW2 weapons were dumb. Drop a bomb and hope it's hits the intended target. I saw the first tests of smart bombs in the deserts surrounding Edwards AFB in the 60's. Missile launch from 200 miles out in the Pacific. When the missile hit the desert floor..."We are still off by five feet." I asked "What is this missile for?" "Nuclear warheads." "Five feet makes a difference?" "For hardened targets, yes it does."

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military staging areas for the coming invasion. They were targeted for a justified reason. Tokyo was fire bombed to stop production of war supplies. Don't believe the crap told by history professors and teachers who never visited the country in question. There were ten military bases around Tokyo after the war. Our base, (family unit) The main street was the runway for new Zero fighter pilot training. Then became a training base for Kamikaze pilots. I was amazed there was enough left to make a US Military Housing base after the runways were bombed. There were fifteen fortified concrete hangers still on the base. Again, training facilities and manufacturing for the tools of war surrounded by the population working to produce those tools ....Justified military targets.

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With that said, no one on this board can say with certainty that the Russians are deliberately targeting civilians and anyone claiming otherwise is serving as sieve for yet more Deep State propaganda.

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This is 100% true. Anyone coming on here lapping up what is clearly propaganda is an utter fool. This conflict is a perfect example of what a corrupt media can do in molding public perception. People need to open their eyes and see how they are being hoodwinked. There is black and white, this is all shades of gray!

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And by simply acknowledging the undeniable reality that our nation’s own national security apparatus is not to be trusted, you will be accused by the mindless drones here of being a Russian propagandist. These tools are the ones who — whether knowingly or unwittingly — are disseminating propaganda. What a sickening spectacle to witness. Joseph Goebbels must be laughing in Hell.

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This is the truth and too many people are simpletons that can’t see reality!

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Does Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki just for starters ring a bell???

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Holy shite, Dresden. Alot of folks don't know about the Dresden bombing.

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You have to look at who was attacked first.

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And what was our justification to attack Iraq post 9/11. We went in there based upon a now proven fictitious story of Sadam harboring terrorists and WMD…..that was spun by what government entity? We were the causative factor in the deaths of approximately 1M Iraq citizens and far too many US servicemen….where are your tears, flags and avatars for that?

Please for the love of God understand that there is shades of gray not black and white!

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'm not certain of your point but it fails miserably as another commonality is that none of those guys started the war, they were drawn into it by the aggressor

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Ok well the US certainly started the Iraq war and escalated the Vietnam and Korean wars bombed and napalmed the crap out of villages and civilians there. Human rights violations are what our government feeds us the people to justify their Imperialist and/or strategic geopolitical goals around the world. They could give two craps about what type of government a country has or how it treats its people as long as it serves US business interests.

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Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military staging areas for the coming invasion.

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Not just that. The atomic bombs saved over a million civilian Japanese lives. Japan was committed to defending against the invasion until every citizen was dead.