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re: Bombing Civilians and war

Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3249 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:14 pm to
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It’s not being a “do goodie” to hate the spread of Communism- it used to be a Republican idea until Trump.


Good lord, I bet you are one of those who tell us men can be women.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:22 pm to
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Putin invaded a sovereign nation to spread communism


Russia hasn’t been communist in three decades. Putin is a nationalist.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2360 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:22 pm to
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Good lord, I bet you are one of those who tell us men can be women.



I you can see any support of Trans people in my comment- i think Freud would love to chat to you about some things
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
8041 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:35 pm to
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Times and tactics have changed since WWII


I contend that tactics are a function of survival. If your way of life is threatened, strategy and tactics will change, winning is everything. Nothing else matters, at some point.

If we win with smart bombs etc. so be it. But if not and our way of life, country, and freedom is truly in jeopardy, Katie bar the door. Strategic bombing changed during ww2 as the war progressed.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20245 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 11:51 pm to
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And this somehow makes you an expert on the subject? The United States hasn't fought a real war in several generations. Since the end of the Korean War most of our conflicts have been waged against farmers armed with AK-47s.


Yeah mother fricker it does. I have done both high intensity as a FST Team leader calling in CAS and SEAD to low intensity in South America with our failed “War on Drugs”. So since you questioned me I will say any one that has gone in harms way, heard the snap of bullets and known he could go home in a fricking body bag is far more an expert than your Call Of Duty playing arse could ever be. And your next statement just goes to prove how thoroughly deplorable you are. There are thousands of men calling out from their graves saying you are an idiot!
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 11:57 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71385 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:34 am to
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I’m referring to European wars fought after the Peace of Westphalia, which set political precedents for recognizing national sovereignty and established norms of inter-state diplomacy between European nations in the modern era. Clausewitz’s assumption that war itself is a rational act and a reflection of a nation’s national interests was largely an outgrowth of Westphalian notions of statehood — that nation-states represent the unified interests of citizens, armies and the heads of government.


Okay...so you are trying to sound intelligent without knowing what you are talking about. Got it. Because...

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Such asymmetrical forms of warfare is indeed the norm in the history of human conflict


This is not entirely accurate. Not in the least bit. There are plenty of examples from ancient history all the way through to the Peace of Westphalia of major, set piece battles fought on land and sea that involved uninformed armies fighting for kings, emperors, and warlords. Asymmetrical warfare has indeed existed since human conflict began, but symmetrical warfare between organized and opposing armies has also existed since the earliest city-states.

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What doesn’t make any sense is your claim that the United States has not fought a “real” war in many generations


Why not ask the imperial leaders of Europe in the early-20th century what was different about the colonial conflicts fought in Africa and Asia and the Great War fought in continental Europe between 1914-1918? This might offer you some insight into what I mean by a "real" war.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33207 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:42 am to
All is fair in love and war. It’s terrible and that’s why it shouldn’t be taken lightly.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Okay...so you are trying to sound intelligent without knowing what you are talking about.


FU @sshat! You want to have a discussion or sling insults? I’m game for either!



My mistake was trying to actually enter into dialogue with you but I thought my initial response was perhaps too brusque. But once again, my initial instinct was correct. I should have left it at this:

You are a fr*cking idiot if you think the United States has not fought in a “real war” since Korea so any further discussion with you will be an excercise in futility. FULL STOP.


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This is not entirely accurate. Not in the least bit. There are plenty of examples from ancient history all the way through to the Peace of Westphalia of major, set piece battles fought on land and sea that involved uninformed armies fighting for kings, emperors, and warlords. Asymmetrical warfare has indeed existed since human conflict began, but symmetrical warfare between organized and opposing armies has also existed since the earliest city-states.


And I made no claim otherwise. I specifically said “belligerent nations” NOT empires, NOT city-states, NOT kingdoms but NATIONS. Nations are largely a modern phenomenon and many historians point to the Peace of Westphalia as the beginning of our modern concept of sovereign nations.

You fricking ignorant cur!

This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:55 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
25058 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:03 pm to
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Does Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki just for starters ring a bell???


well yeah, they were shooting at us
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31673 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:09 pm to
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And this somehow makes you an expert on the subject? The United States hasn't fought a real war in several generations. Since the end of the Korean War most of our conflicts have been waged against farmers armed with AK-47s.


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Yeah mother fricker it does. I have done both high intensity as a FST Team leader calling in CAS and SEAD to low intensity in South America with our failed “War on Drugs”. So since you questioned me I will say any one that has gone in harms way, heard the snap of bullets and known he could go home in a fricking body bag is far more an expert than your Call Of Duty playing arse could ever be. And your next statement just goes to prove how thoroughly deplorable you are. There are thousands of men calling out from their graves saying you are an idiot!




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ABearsFanNMS

NICE!!
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