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Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:37 pm to TrueTiger
quote:I couldn't answer that question. I think it's far too broad, no pun intended.
are white Women cops more dangerous because they opt for force too soon in the presence of black males?
In my many years policing, I never shared a squad with a woman officer. Occasionally I'd have to hang over a few hours to provide shift coverage if our relief was short, or sometimes we'd have neighboring units respond to a hot call in our area (pursuit or something) and some of them would be women, but I've never policed consistently around women.
But...
I attended two academies (for departments in different states) and had women in both of them. Additionally, during my time in service at the academy I trained plenty more.
I could probably count on one hand the number of female officers I was at least acquainted with who I trusted to save my life. That number is out of dozens, easily.
But to answer your question, I think I saw more inaction than poor action from female officers, in the limited exposure I had to them. That pertains to their responses/behavior at EVOC, SWAT night, practical assessments, inspections, hot calls, etc., irrespective of their race or the race of the offender.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:38 pm to aubie101
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Second wave feminism.
Yeah, but also every other wave of feminism and liberalism.
There is no healthy kind of either.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:39 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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I saw more inaction than poor action from female officers
I concur sir, this too has been my experience during my stint in FTO.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:40 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:40 pm to jaytothen
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What's the problem.
The point is she admits to mistaking her pistol for a taser and accidentally shot him when she obviously didn’t feel shooting him was necessary.
The fact that he was an idiot and shouldn’t have resisted doesn’t really matter in this case. That’s going to be the easiest involuntary manslaughter conviction in history.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Do you have any data to support there being an inability to successfully subdue suspects given women on the force?
Like any police force would dare conduct & keep that kind of misogynistic data. That truth would have them on every CNN type news show in the blink of an eye
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:40 pm to TigahJay
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Only a woman could mistake a gun for a taser
an elderly male cop did the same thing a few years ago, got 4 years, served 16 months
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:41 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:This may come as a surprise, but oftentimes the offenders don't hold still and present a clear target.
Who tazes someone in the head?
Also, those are tiny darts propelled by nitrogen (or some inert gas). They don't really come from a barrel, so accuracy isn't always as nice as you'd like. One prong fires flat(ish) and the other prong is set at an angle respective to the maximum length of the conductors. That is done to give a prime spread on the body through which the current should pass. In my day, the "door" of the cartridge was colored differently for various spreads.
All that to say, sometimes those little shits just fly where they want.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:41 pm to ChuckO1975
quote:Intuitively, I want to give an easy "yes". But it's why I asked if there were any data to back up the anecdotal claim that women on the force have led to a detectable lack of ability for precincts to subdue suspects. Many things end up with counter-intuitive results. No answer to this question would surprise me.
Simple questions, sir....
Is it better to be stronger or weaker?
It's a yes or no. We don't need to get into fantasy land where we pretend guns can perform human functions.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:43 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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All that to say, sometimes those little shits just fly where they want.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:43 pm to 91TIGER
quote:And let me also say, and maybe you'll agree, that there are TONS of guys - big, small, muscular, slim, fat, short, tall, whatever - that are exactly the same way. Let them get that Crown Vic up to 70 mph in an EVOC with the ABS fuse pulled and watch them shite themselves.
I concur sir, this too has been my experience during my stint in FTO.
Some people aren't cut out to be surgeons or ball players or chefs or cops. That's just how it goes.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:44 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Intuitively, I want to give an easy "yes"
Right on.
As a career professional in a closely related field, the data supports strength over weakness every time, but honestly everyone already knows it, so it's not even worth analysis.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:44 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:Maybe if he were Hispanic I would agree.
Come on nothing. The media is advancing a narrative not the truth. If he had managed to shoot all three police officers they would have focused on the fact he was white.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:48 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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And let me also say, and maybe you'll agree, that there are TONS of guys - big, small, muscular, slim, fat, short, tall, whatever - that are exactly the same way.
Yes, sir, it's the size of the fight in the dog not the size of the dog that counts. Quite a few male specimens washed out in FTO due to their inability to react, shear panic. They ended up in the dispatch training program
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:51 pm to Nurbis
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If we use the left's justification for killing Ashli Babbitt, then this shooting was perfectly justified.
What restricted area was the dude breaking into?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:52 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
This may come as a surprise, but oftentimes the offenders don't hold still and present a clear target.
Also, those are tiny darts propelled by nitrogen (or some inert gas). They don't really come from a barrel, so accuracy isn't always as nice as you'd like. One prong fires flat(ish) and the other prong is set at an angle respective to the maximum length of the conductors. That is done to give a prime spread on the body through which the current should pass. In my day, the "door" of the cartridge was colored differently for various spreads.
All that to say, sometimes those little shits just fly where they want.
I get all that. But in the post I asked that question was in reference to a poster who said a cop mistakenly pulled his gun instead of his tazer, and shot the perp in the head. Meaning he was actually aiming for the guy's head. I would think you'd aim center mass of the body and then yeah, those little suckers will fly where they want.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:56 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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I get all that. But in the post I asked that question was in reference to a poster who said a cop mistakenly pulled his gun instead of his tazer, and shot the perp in the head. Meaning he was actually aiming for the guy's head. I would think you'd aim center mass of the body and then yeah, those little suckers will fly where they want.
If he is that panicked nothing is out of the question. He's not in control of his faculties so to see that happen is not surprising.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:57 pm to rb
quote:more so it won’t be until black fathers take responsibility and start raising their kids. Pretty much every black mother tells their kids not to trust cops
This shite is going to continue to happen until black people teach their children to comply with law enforcement.
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