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re: Biden stopped the executions of 37 men. Trump's DOJ wants to punish them

Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7046 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:14 pm to
Who knows they might be back on death row if all of the pardons are determined that they were signed with the auto pen and without Pedo Joe knowing
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15563 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:15 pm to
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Her bike got stolen by the homeless dude

Right after she let him in her house and bang her.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90769 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:16 pm to
Well yeah even packed him a sack lunch.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14173 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:20 pm to
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These men were already removed permanently from society. From a public safety standpoint, the goal has already been achieved.

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This is just resource-intensive cruelty so a subset of people can delight in schadenfreude.

Can you petition Judge James E. Boasberg to provide conjugal visits to this men?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61440 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:25 pm to
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You’ve come to the absolute wrong conclusion because the premise to your work is false.


The premise of my work is that all humans possess innate, unearned dignity because we were all made in the image and likeness of God.

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No doubt that it’s meaningful to you though. It resembles religious faith.


I’m told this is a country founded and built on Christian values.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90769 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:26 pm to
Lol then release all prisoners.

Put them in your backyard

Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
2222 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:28 pm to
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Biden stopped the executions of 37 men. Trump's DOJ wants to punish them


Technically, Biden didn't stop them either. His autopen did.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by BoomerandSooner
Member since Sep 2025
3062 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:29 pm to
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The premise of my work


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63087 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:30 pm to
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The premise of my work is that all humans possess innate, unearned dignity because we were all made in the image and likeness of God.


Nah

You are conflating a moral stand with a logical one.

And we both know that your morality isn’t the basis for your work.

And if we are being totally honest that isn’t a true reflection of your morality either. Your lack of care for victims proves that.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2564 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:32 pm to
The current criminal justice system is an abject failure, PRIMARILY due to insane, woke policies. The main problem is the lack of sufficient incarceration of known repeat violent criminals due to “racism”. Democrat activist DAs and judges intentionally put known animals back on the street over and over again, directly imperiling the public.

Best way to create more safety is to lock up repeat violent offenders long term. The prison conditions are irrelevant. What is relevant is feral animals are prevented from further harming the public, and prevented from reproducing more of their kind (criminals).

BL - we need more incarceration, not less because it’s obvious that current policies are not working.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143843 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:35 pm to
at very high level I'm against the death penalty. but every time I hear the stories of what many of these people did to their victims they are better off put down. the children of their victims will sleep better knowing the animal that took their parents life has been euthanized.

1 fact I think we can both agree on is that 100% of murders that have been put down by the state have gone on to murder / rape again.

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22028 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:48 pm to
"Should google it"...........Here's the answer, she uses such a reliable, fair minded source for her statistics. No doubt she uses the N.Y. Times as a source as well .At last count, 37+ illegals have raped / killed young American innocents. Throw in those killed in traffic accidents by unlicensed illegal truck drivers. Why don't you go try & use your arguments in face to face meetings with these families? There's a web site with their contact information. "Mercy"? I'm willing to give these killers just as much mercy as they gave their victims.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122896 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:49 pm to
What is preferable to jail time? Please be specific.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7889 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:50 pm to
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We already know, conclusively, that harsher punishments do not deter crime. Longer sentences don’t deter. Supermax conditions don’t deter. Making prison more miserable doesn’t deter. This has been studied to death spanning decades, jurisdictions, and crime categories.

Certainty of punishment matters. Severity beyond a baseline does not.

These men were already removed permanently from society. From a public safety standpoint, the goal has already been achieved.

This is just resource-intensive cruelty so a subset of people can delight in schadenfreude. That’s it. The government is spending more money to make already condemned people suffer more because it feels good to some voters.

all I got from that stupidity is that we apparently have no punishments that "work," but it's needed. Therefore, the only course of action is to up the death penalty like we use too. From court to the hanging platform. Save the taxpayers money is the upmost importance.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21849 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:57 pm to
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The premise of my work is that all humans possess innate, unearned dignity because we were all made in the image and likeness of God.


Even monsters like Dahmer?

You don't think some people are beyond that innate, unearned dignity.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3010 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:58 pm to

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Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61440 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:20 pm to
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And we both know that your morality isn’t the basis for your work.



Then stop implying and say it explicitly. What exactly are you accusing me of?
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And if we are being totally honest that isn’t a true reflection of your morality either. Your lack of care for victims proves that.


You keep asserting “lack of care for victims” as if repetition turns it into evidence. What is the evidence?

Because from where I’m standing, the evidence cuts the other way.

Our current system does a phenomenal job at producing people who come out more damaged, more antisocial, and more capable of harming others. Our shameful recidivism rates are a predictable outcome of a system that prioritizes punishment theater over rehabilitation. Continuing that status quo while pretending it’s “tough on crime” is not victim-centered.

You accuse me of not caring about victims because I don’t equate justice with maximal suffering. I accuse you of not caring about future victims because you’re satisfied with policies that reliably generate more of them.

I want fewer victims. That means fewer people cycling back into violence. That means rehabilitation done seriously, consistently, and at scale, which is something this country has never actually committed to with fidelity.

If your definition of “caring about victims” begins and ends with how much pain we can inflict after the harm is already done, then yes, we are operating from fundamentally different premises. But don’t confuse vengeance with concern.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61440 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:23 pm to
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The main problem is the lack of sufficient incarceration of known repeat violent criminals due to “racism”


Are you only concerned with reactive policies that address crime only after it has been committed? Are you at all interested in preventing crime and preventing victimization?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122896 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:24 pm to
What would prevent crime and victimization? Please elaborate.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61440 posts
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:24 pm to
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1 fact I think we can both agree on is that 100% of murders that have been put down by the state have gone on to murder / rape again.



And we can both agree that many people have been put down by the state for crimes that they in fact did not commit.

But it feels better to ignore that part and we sure do love our feels here.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 8:25 pm
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