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re: Biden currently betting favorite to win 2024 election

Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Pizza Dan
Member since Apr 2023
297 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:07 pm to
He’s still promising free shite on top of eliminating inflation and reducing federal debt. That’s when he’s not “paying off student debt”, which means he’s just adding it on to federal deficit for taxpayers to foot the bill for all the liberal art deadbeats that went to school for 12 years and can’t find a job except maybe at Starbucks.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30238 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:08 pm to
He’s still gotta check curing cancer off his list too. Gosh I hope he gets that in there soon.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7311 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:09 pm to
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I wish you populists...


Wow. Now people who want a constitutionally LIMITED federal government are called "populists" with a nice, derogatory inflection. The lefties have to make up more names for us now that they're losing the war based on facts.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21373 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:10 pm to
I agree.

But that's the thing. When you put together the numbers of adults who don't pay any federal income tax, and all the free shite Democrats promise, it may actually not be cheating/rigging that led to Biden being elected.

We've reached a point where there's more people riding in the wagon than actually pulling, and the riders don't want to get off and help pull.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2392 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:11 pm to
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I guess the betting markets finally accounted for the voter fraud


Still a long way to go.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72475 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Now people who want a constitutionally LIMITED federal government


Who are those people?

Certainly not the Trump Loyalists, so who?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17980 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Wouldn't the fault be with voters who vote Biden simply because they have a blind hatred for the other main candidate?

Them, and the non-Dems who made Trump the Republican nominee with zero thought.

I think Trump wins this November, but it could have been an easier slog with a better candidate.

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Not one actual complaint about policy.

That's not true. There are loads of conservatives that are critical of Trump's first term/policies. And if you're confused by that, just consider the point you made - that liberals hate him personally but "not one actual complaint about policy."
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74110 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Oddsmakers are currently offering plus-money returns on both candidates for the upcoming face-off between Trump and Biden.

Trump remains the slight favorite at 6/5 (Bet $100 to win $120) to capture the 2024 U.S. Presidential Election.

Joe Biden is sitting at 5/4 odds (Bet $100 to win $125) to repeat as U.S. President.


Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1483 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:21 pm to
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It will be a shame if this opportunity to get Biden out is squandered


Biden stands no chance.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82143 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:24 pm to
That's pretty easily manipulated. If 5 of us strategically invested $850 in "Trump yes", "Biden no" shares we could have Trump "favoured" in under 5 minutes.

The way that Matt Drudge continuously hypes this every few days, I wouldn't be shocked if he's actively putting his finger on the scale.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56430 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:25 pm to
They saw the Texas voter registration numbers.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39582 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:47 pm to
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I fully expect the MSM will find a way to say Biden is going ahead in the polls as the election nears. They will either manufacture polls or find small polls that favor Dems.

Or they have been manufacturing polls showing Trump surging so they could get him for the General Election.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24928 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 4:59 pm to
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He's not a great candidate for the general election. Some of us tried to tell you that 6-8 months ago.

He was far and away the best candidate available that actually had a shot of winning.

WTF was everyone supposed to do, ditch him and get behind her???



Your take is bad. The MAGA base was never going to get actually motivated and fired up over Desantis or Nikki.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6583 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:03 pm to
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I can see a scenario where Biden actually did get more legit votes (per the laws) than Trump, and that might be more worrisome than simply a fraud explanation.


Your argument for Biden legitimately winning is that there are a lot of people on welfare.

This still doesn't disprove the evidence of fraud. It doesn't eliminate the countless mathematical improbabilities and how vote counting stopped and then continued with an overwhelming majority for Biden in multiple states.

There is then the fact that votes have since been deemed illegal, more than enough to alter the election. This alone is enough to disprove your argument.

Your argument is singular and only tangentially related to the act of voting. I'll stick with the arguments that show evidence of fraud directly related to the election.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:06 am to
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Insert any politician into his place and it will be exactly the same.


I'm not sure whether you mean that you think that the conspiracy will be played out no matter who the candidate is or whether you are saying that nobody but Trump will govern any differently.

If you mean the first, I could spend a lot of time compiling links and reasons that the "conspiracy" prediction is unlikely and (even if it happens) overblown by an order of magnitude. Despite the low-IQ populist conspiracy nonsense, nobody manufactured tens of millions of votes in 2020. Maybe tens of thousands. That were very strategically applied. And that wasn't even the most important thing that happened in 2020.

The point being, there's only so much you can do to tip an election. In 2020 it was close enough to work. The idea is to widen the gap so that it's not possible. So the strength of the candidate absolutely matters.

If you mean the second, no, it won't.

That's populist idiocy.

Any Republican candidate would govern very differently than Biden. Y'all low-IQ types tend to identify a small minority of similarities in governance and then use that to claim "The Republicans are just like the Democrats; it's a Uni-Party!" While ignoring the obvious differences.

You also ignore that Trump has as many or more similarities with Democrats as any other Republican candidate, although those similarities may be different ones.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72475 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:10 am to
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The MAGA base was never going to get actually motivated and fired up over Desantis or Nikki.


You don't see the problem with that?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72475 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:12 am to
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There is then the fact that votes have since been deemed illegal


Where?

And don't fricking say Wisconsin.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:13 am to
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He was far and away the best candidate available that actually had a shot of winning.


I think you might have a memory issue going on.

As recently as January 2024, DeSantis and Haley were leading Biden in polls. Trump was too, but the problem with Trump is obvious. In January the media hadn't gotten around to working on helping him lose. It was still all about the primaries.

And sure, they will oppose any Republican candidate, but Trump gives them by far the most ammunition.

And you can discount Haley if you want, but there would have been nothing wrong with DeSantis as the candidate. Frankly, I would rather have him govern than Trump. Even if you wouldn't, you can't reasonably say that he would have been a bad POTUS given his track record as governor.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:15 am to
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Biden stands no chance.


This is the echo chamber speaking.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:16 am to
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Still a long way to go.


This is true.

But—barring something completely unexpected happening—do you see Trump's position strengthening as he battles 91 criminal charges while campaigning, or do you see it weakening?
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