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re: Biden currently betting favorite to win 2024 election

Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:18 am to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:18 am to
Many on the left are becoming increasingly worried that Biden stands no chance as things are trending at this time. It’s probably you who is residing in the echo chamber. A small one though.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3775 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:19 am to
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Now people who want a constitutionally LIMITED federal government are called "populists"


No, Only-Trumpers (and a good number of people who prefer trump but would also vote for another Republican) are populists.

Only-Trumpers do not care about a constitutionally limited government.

Not even a little bit.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:19 am to
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but there would have been nothing wrong with DeSantis as the candidate


No there wasnt. He unfortuantely ran the worst campaign of all time. Thats his fault

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24834 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:19 am to
He's losing by 10pts on the best polls, but OK.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:20 am to
tCult will not like or acknowledge that
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3775 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:21 am to
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Many on the left are becoming increasingly worried that Biden stands no chance as things are trending at this time. It’s probably you who is residing in the echo chamber. A small one though.


Well, the polls aren't saying he has no chance, so what do you think they know that the people being polled don't know?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48273 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:21 am to
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tCult will not like or acknowledge that


Y’all are so much more obsessed with him than any of us. Yet you will not acknowledge that.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:24 am to
To be fair, I don’t think any poll is designed to show a situation of “no chance.”
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57871 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:25 am to
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Biden currently betting favorite to win 2024 election


With the Electoral College map the way it is, any Republican running is at a decided disadvantage from the start.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3775 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:33 am to
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The world’s bad guys hate him because he’s not a weak push over.


This is true. So tell me something.

Why is the populist battle cry now, "Are you going to send your children to die in the Middle East, blah, blah, blah?"

Why do y'all (rightly) praise Trump for motivating international Bad Actors to stand down with tough action, yet condemn anyone else who talks about doing the same thing?

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The dems hate him because the US was actually doing good under him.



Democrats hate him because he does understand common sentiments and he is brash about expressing them. And he's a super/uber/hyper Alpha, which they can't stand. And yeah, he may blow up some conventions that other Republicans allow them to get away with.

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Everybody else hates Biden


That's where I disagree. Everybody doesn't hate Biden. Not like they hate Trump. Even many of the ones who are tired of the effects of Biden's policies don't hate him.

And always, you guys forget a couple of things.

1. The Democrats who hate Trump and the Republicans who hate Biden just cancel themselves out. They don't elect anyone. "Undecided Voters" actually elect the POTUS.

2. "Undecided Voters" are low information voters without guiding political principles. Otherwise there is no way they could really be in conflict about the choice before them. They do not make voting decisions based on thinking through the consequences of the likely policies either candidate will implement. Not to anywhere near the degree you would, anyway. A lot of it is based on general personal impression of the candidate.

That's who you have to appeal to.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73475 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:34 am to
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You don't see the problem with that?


Nope. Those two lost hugely.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73464 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:36 am to
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That's where I disagree. Everybody doesn't hate Biden. Not like they hate Trump




Can you stop bleeding all of the place
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3775 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:42 am to
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To be fair, I don’t think any poll is designed to show a situation of “no chance.”


I don't think that's being fair, I think it's being evasive.

First of all, if a poll isn't adequate to determine "no chance," then someone's random opinion based on nothing but their own personal perception certainly isn't.

Secondly, we may disagree about how wide a gap = "no chance," but no reasonable person would deny that SOME gap would = "no chance."

99% to 1% = no chance for the 1% polled.

And a 50% to 50% poll definitely wouldn't qualify as a "no chance" scenario, and no reasonable person would claim that it did.

The latest NYT poll, released 5 hours ago, has Trump at 46% and Biden at 45%.

In order to claim "no chance" in that scenario, you'd have to declare the poll 100% unreliable or you'd have to know something that is going to happen that you expect to radically change the poll.

So which one of those do you think the poster to whom I was replying thinks?
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
33182 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:44 am to
You're a retard.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3775 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:45 am to
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Can you stop bleeding all of the place


Sure.

Go back to sleep and dream about french kissing Trump while giving him a prostate massage.

We'll find out who is right about the strength of Trump's candidacy and how many people hate him in about seven months.

I just hope you idiots aren't sitting around claiming Deep State Lizard Man Illuminati Conspiracy then, because it will mean that Cult45 cost everybody in American the chance to get rid of Biden.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3775 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:46 am to
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You're a retard.


And yet I still probably have 30 IQ points on you.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24834 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:48 am to
Why do the Leftists & Never Trumpers always resorting to homosexual fetish stuff when anyone casually points out they prefer Trump over the corrupt, known pedo & mentally incompetent Biden?

It's such a severe reflex that the projection of themselves is obvious.
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48273 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:48 am to
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Don't whine about it now, and don't start talking about conspiracy theories


Like illegal votes being counted? Is that the conspiracy theory you’re referencing? You are at odds with a state Supreme Court and a US court of appeals if so.
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 8:49 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71481 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:49 am to
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Nope.


Well, congrats. Getting Biden or Trump again must be a huge win for you.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71481 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:49 am to
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illegal votes


Still nope, Barry.
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