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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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The crisis already existed. Europe wasn't getting gas this winter due to Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.
I guess I didn’t think I needed to qualify “crisis” by limiting it to one’s that we’re not perceived as being self induced.
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:05 am to Powerman
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To take control over natural resources and trade routes
It wasn't some act of self defense and you're a fool if you believe that
This falls into the the third reason for the Russian invasion of Ukraine IMO. NATO expansion is primary.
Reasons for Russian invasion of Ukraine:
1. Western mismanagement of post Soviet Russia. Specifically NATO expansion. The brazen eastward expansion of NATO has been declared a existential threat to Russia by Russian leaders for the past 2-3 decades.
2. Europe's hyper reliance on energy and commodities from Russia. Not necessarily a direct reason but a disposition between nations that allows for Russian advancement.
3. Expansionist desires of Putin. I'm under no illusion that Putin does not have expansionist desires. Your reason fall under Putin's expansionists desires.
4. Putin believes he his is a salvific force for Christendom versus Western woke-ism.
We do not get to 2., 3. and 4. without 1.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Globalists
Who, apparently, want to attack globalism
What's a "globalist"?
You seem to not understand how change works, or markets for that matter...
All through history, change happened for usually one reason: a crash or destruction of the current ruling order.
What usually comes out of that is some form of socialism or totalitarianism. That's the rule, not the exception.
So let's say you are a "globalist" who wants to "rule"...what would a rational "globalist" do if history has any validity at all?
Move all the pieces on the chest board in place by buying up all the farmland, manipulating currency to buy and control physical commodities, controlling information and the flow of thought while disrupting the energy supply.
THEN crash the markets...creating the ultimate "buy low" scenario where the richest come out exponentially richer and in control of almost all the global economies creating a "subscription model" for the average person for everything using digital currencies and social credit scores for complete control.
Are you not paying attention AT ALL?
Many people who are familiar with my posts in the past warning of oncoming events will tell you, I'm straight up correct in the long run...from the election being fraudulent, to the Chinese playing us for decades, to the government spying on us, to paid democratic operatives on this very site, to the COVID/VACCINE scam, to even saying would would win a NC the year we finally started Matt Flynn
I've been 100% right on calling ALL of that, not because I am smart, but because I have common sense and am objectively paying attention.
And I am telling you now - the aim is to move us to a controllable subscription model for everything based on digital currencies.
Bitcoin was the test. ESG was the test. The vaccine push was the infrastructure build. The patriot act was the foundation for the west. All these were chest pieces moving in place for the checkmate.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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Must be NATO aggression that's never existed.
Never existed? Can't agree with you on that.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
I do not believe the US blew up NordStream, I think even this bonehead admin is not THAT stupid.
But I also do not totally dismiss the concept. They are stupid, after all.
But I also do not totally dismiss the concept. They are stupid, after all.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:21 am to GumboPot
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This falls into the the third reason for the Russian invasion of Ukraine IMO. NATO expansion is primary.
Looks like Putin has you believing everything he wants you to
Color me shocked
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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The US and EU being at odds with each other would literally rewrite the world order and unwind anything that could ever be imagined as "globalist".
Yeah, I'm sure the EU is going to turn on the US and start defending themselves. SFP, you're better than this.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:23 am to Taxing Authority
His larger point remains
Why would we create a rift between the EU and the US? That would be contrary to any globalist agenda
Why would we create a rift between the EU and the US? That would be contrary to any globalist agenda
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
The US and EU have another pipeline coming out of Norway. But that really is not set to be fully functional for another 8-10 months
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:25 am to Powerman
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That would be contrary to any globalist agenda
Again, what's the "globalist agenda"?
You can't assume anything is contrary to something you can't accurately define.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:27 am to theunknownknight
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Again, what's the "globalist agenda"?
You can't assume anything is contrary to something you can't accurately define.
That's part of the problem. No one seems to be able to define it. Particularly the people who are against it.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:30 am to Powerman
quote:Only if you think the Euros are going to kick the US out of NATO while Putin is in the middle of an invasion of eastern Europe.
His larger point remains
Euros haven't paid for their own militaries in almost a century. I'm sure they're eager to start in the middle of an energy crisis.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Then why do all the stupid bullshite prior to invading Ukraine (twice), Georgia, etc.?
He was going to be the "bad guy" no matter what. Why create a bullshite narrative with a propagandized defense?
Hold on. You are the one suggesting that Putin is doing this for reputation. That seems absurd. If Putin did this, there is certainly an ulterior motive. But, I don't think how he is viewed is it. It's probably much more significant.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:35 am to Taxing Authority
Again how does the US causing problems for the EU advance the globalist agenda? It doesn't and that's his point.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:36 am to moneyg
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If Putin did this, there is certainly an ulterior motive
Right
To pretend that one of the NATO countries did it to him so he can play the victim
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:38 am to Stingray
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We are moving to a bipolar world, US/EU and China/Russia.
I think it would be trilateral.
US/EU/Oceania
China
Russia (distant 3rd)
Russia and China will not get along well enough over the long term.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:39 am to LetsgoGamecocks
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Never existed? Can't agree with you on that.
When has NATO acted with aggression without UN approval?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:39 am to Taxing Authority
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I'm sure the EU is going to turn on the US and start defending themselves.
Based on the arguments as to why the US would do that, the EU is about to give up on the EU and USD and start trading in rubles.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:40 am to Powerman
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To pretend that one of the NATO countries did it to him so he can play the victim
No one is feeling sorry for Putin. You have to be a whacko conspiracy nut to believe this.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:41 am to theunknownknight
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Again, what's the "globalist agenda"?
You can't assume anything is contrary to something you can't accurately define.
I've been asking for a definition of Globalism for going on 6 years now.
But the most common usage involves a European/American elite centered around European institutions (like the WEF).
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