Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump

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The US and EU being at odds with each other would literally rewrite the world order and unwind anything that could ever be imagined as "globalist".

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The EU would be stupid to be at odds with the US, they'd be committing suicide nearly, but they've always looked down on Americans despite their history in the first half of the 20th century.


The US doesn't need Europe nearly as much as Europe needs the US.

The only reason Europe was able to rebuild after WW2 was because of THE US.

It doesn't fit the green agenda either.

Faced with freezing, the public will scream to bring back fossil and nukes.

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The US doesn't need Europe nearly as much as Europe needs the US.

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I don't disagree, which is exactly the point of OP.

This unwinding of diplomatic and trade relationships would create a much more nationalistic paradigm for international relations.

AKA, the literal opposite of globalism and what Trump was promoting.

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Well, if you leave out the need to reduce the population,

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Playing off of this point, I am torn between all of the WEF/great reset talk versus neocons absolutely not allowing anything other than a unipolar world that they rule (which is more of what I think is going on now). I don't know that you can have both.

One of the theories for cutting off Germany from Russia is to make Germany dependent on US LNG. There is another theory that driving up energy costs will destroy their manufacturing and that some German companies are looking to relocate to U.S. But, again, I don't know that you can have both -- if you kill German manufacturing, you're killing their energy demands.

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Do you think the elites and technocrats running the EU and various European countries are going to freeze to death?

When Europe is a dystopian horrorscape, the masses will beg for help from those in power. Or they'll start killing people.

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Yeah, the elites and technocrats

what in the hell?

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Playing off of this point, I am torn between all of the WEF/great reset talk versus neocons absolutely not allowing anything other than a unipolar world that they rule (which is more of what I think is going on now). I don't know that you can have both.

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I agree.

It's kind of like trying to fit Putin and Xi/China into the globalism paradigm.

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if you kill German manufacturing, you're killing their energy demands.

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Well, and as we saw with CV19, if you kill off enough manufacturing (even if the products don't come here directly), you're going to frick over your domestic population with supply-based inflation.

Biden and Nuland on camera implying they would stop the pipeline. Then the strategic implications of destroying them removes leverage Russia had over Europe and Germany. Then there's Biden and the wacko green crew hell bent on ending fossil fuels. Destroying the pipeline hurts Russia financially as they cannot get revenue from it. The US wants all other countries off fossil fuels...And yet somehow you still think it was Russia? The US doesn't care about Europe. The Feds don't care about what happens to US citizens. They only care about global power and embezzling tax payer cash for their pockets and funding further conquest of the world by installing their manchurian candidates to do their bidding.

Can we stop pretending that the US had anything to do with the NS2 pipeline being blown up or shut down?

It's Russia doing Russian things.

The only thing the US had any involvement in was making it a certainty that the EU would be dependant on Putin and Russia for energy. As soon as that happened, most everyone knew that Russia would spring the trap right before winter to force the EU to back Russia or at least not put up any fight.

Ray Charles could see this coming.

THe US has a weak President and administration that is getting played left and right on the world stage and the whole world knows it. Americans are the only stupid ones that can't see it.