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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump

Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:43 am to
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No one is feeling sorry for Putin. You have to be a whacko conspiracy nut to believe this.


People have been defending Putin's bullshite on this board for years. It's really ramped up post-invasion.

They will bend over backwards, use any irrational connection, and cite any suspect source to support his justification for the invasion.

If he can parlay that kind of support for an unjustified invasion, why wouldn't he rely on similar support for other negative acts?

It is literally his M.O. It's how he's always operated.

Hell, his talking points are already circulating on a message board based out of Louisiana within 12 hours of being on Russia propaganda-news outlets.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:45 am to
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I've been asking for a definition of Globalism for going on 6 years now.



Trump was never fighting against "globalism" per se. He was fighting for America First policies which are nationalists policies and the antithesis of globalism.

Globalism is incremental. For example TPP and member nations making rules for corporations under TPP member states would be an incremental step toward globalism. Trump pulling out of TPP is an incremental step away form globalism.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:46 am to
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That's part of the problem. No one seems to be able to define it. Particularly the people who are against it.


I gave it a shot above:

The agenda is to set the infrastructure and pieces in place for information flow, control over the food production by buying up and controlling farmland, financial control with digital currencies, societal control with social credit scores, energy control by moving us away from the older model like oil, logistical control by enhanced tracking and vehicle manipulation, further monetary control by manipulating currencies via inflation...

Then once the pieces are in place.

Crash it all and build it back up under a controllable subscription model.

We've been conditioned for years for this.

- information flow: check - social media and all the telecoms and entertainment being own by a few large corporations
- control over the food production by buying up and controlling farmland: check - largest farmland owners in the world are at an all time low, meaning most of the land is in the hands of fewer and fewer. The WEF shut down Holland, the second largest food exporter in the world, and have incentivized farmers not to farm in the USA.
- financial control with digital currencies: check - bitcoin wasn't an accident. It was a dry run.
- societal control with social credit scores: check - already done in Asia and implemented here as a soft launch with ESG and cancel culture
- energy control by moving us away from the older model like oil: check - obvious with "green energy" which is just a more controllable form of energy for governments. Create a very energy crisis you need to step in a solve
- logistical control by enhanced tracking and vehicle manipulation: check - also obvious with the tech tracking we have now that will and can be controlled WAY more easily with electric (and/or self driving) vehicles
- further monetary control by manipulating currencies via inflation: check - weaken the buying power of the population over time driving them further into personal debt
- Militia control by limiting/controlling the flow of gun and ammo: check - this one is obvious and out in the open at this point.

The WEF states their goal. They want to have this done by 2030. So the more these pieces fall into place, the closer we are to the purposeful crash so that the world "rebounds" under their image.

Now, I feel that is somewhat misguided because they underestimate the fighting resolved of people, but they control the biological and tactical weapons that could wipe us out...so
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by El Magnifico
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:47 am to
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How can there be "globalism" when the US fractures the very relationships that create it?
EU would gravitate towards Russia and China and leave the US out in the cold. The jews that run America would then just relocate to China/East Asia like the cosmopolitan parasites they are.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:48 am to
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People have been defending Putin's bullshite on this board for years. It's really ramped up post-invasion.


They have not.

You are viewing objective assessment and criticizing Western policy as supporting Putin.

Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:49 am to
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No one is feeling sorry for Putin. You have to be a whacko conspiracy nut to believe this.


You specifically are essentially siding with him on his justification for the invasion which is just made up propaganda that you took the bait on
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:51 am to
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EU would gravitate towards Russia and China and leave the US out in the cold. The jews that run America would then just relocate to China/East Asia like the cosmopolitan parasites they are.




Bringing the jews into this discussion just makes me laugh. There are many Anglo parasites too. Believe me.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:51 am to
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The jews that run America would then just relocate to China/East Asia like the cosmopolitan parasites they are.


This supports my thesis that a lot of people use “globalism” as code to express anti-semitic views. Because their critiques of it do not line up well with definition of globalism as properly understood.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:52 am to
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But the most common usage involves a European/American elite centered around European institutions (like the WEF).


This is a REAL institution, though, with REAL power and stated objectives that's being ACTUALLY active especially in Europe at the moment.

You can't just dismiss them especially when they have stated goals.

And ESPECIALLY after the shite they openly pulled in Holland. WHY do that? Well, it makes sense in the bigger picture...if you actually read what they state they want to do.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:52 am to
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I do not believe the US blew up NordStream, I think even this bonehead admin is not THAT stupid. But I also do not totally dismiss the concept. They are stupid, after all.

You have to consider who benefits from this. New sections of the Baltic pipeline are coming on line, which would mean lots of business for the UK, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland, etc. There is a huge amount of oil & gas under the North Sea. Who would most of the western world prefer to buy from, Russia or these alternatives? At the same time, eliminate the competition (Russia) and who gets to charge high prices?
LINK The Baltic Pipe

Another point: Don't fall for the hype about environmental hazard from methane leaks(which is the main gas that flows through these pipelines). The % of methane gas in the earth's atmosphere is so infinitesimally tiny that its almost undetectable without the most exotic methods, 0.00017%. Consider all the alarmist news on the methane leaking from the Nord Stream break
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:52 am to
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People have been defending Putin's bullshite on this board for years
Pussy really did break you
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:55 am to
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You have to consider who benefits from this. New sections of the Baltic pipeline are coming on line, which would mean lots of business for the UK, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland, etc. There is a huge amount of oil & gas under the North Sea. Who would most of the western world prefer to buy from, Russia or these alternatives? At the same time, eliminate the competition (Russia) and who gets to charge high prices?
LINK The Baltic Pipe


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:56 am to
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EU would gravitate towards Russia and China and leave the US out in the cold.

I was just told on the last page this is crazy

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The jews that run America would then just relocate to China/East Asia like the cosmopolitan parasites they are.

Oh

You're one of them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:00 am to
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You are viewing objective assessment and criticizing Western policy as supporting Putin.

Selectively curated "criticism of Western policy"

And if you mean NATO, then that's not behavior worth criticizing.

Again.

NATO is a defensive pact
NATO, to my memory, has only engaged in aggression with UNSC approval
Russia is on the UNSC and can veto any actions

Again, what threat is NATO to Russia, if Russia can thwart any aggression NATO could be requested to engage in?

So, NATO membership isn't a rational or logical justification.

What else? You really think Putin is a freedom fighter trying to protect the interest of ethnic Russians living in eastern Ukraine? Especially after his move last week to declare Ukraine the aggressor in this conflict based on these areas being declared autonomous by Russia?

None of this means that the US has clean hands. We don't. But our meddling was (1) reactionary to Russian meddling who installed their puppet first; and (2) without consequence in 2022, as Zelensky's party ousted our puppet PM/government.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:00 am to
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Pussy really did break you

Gumbo Pot is literally doing it in this thread

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:01 am to
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This supports my thesis that a lot of people use “globalism” as code to express anti-semitic views.

Well, only one guy in a long thread has brought up Jewish people. So "a lot" should be changed to "a very minute population".
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:01 am to
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Gumbo Pot is literally doing it in this thread





He's literally not
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:01 am to
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Pussy really did break you

What are you talking about? People defended Putin's invasion of Ukraine in this thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:02 am to
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He's literally not

He's trying to pretend that Putin has some legitimate reason to invade Ukraine. That's defending Putin based on the PR Putin created.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:03 am to
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What are you talking about?

You turning into a complete retard and making threads like this one.
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