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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Imagine there is a hostage situation. The hostages have been exposed to a deadly, but curable disease. The hostage-taker is offering to give the hostages the antidote if they’re allowed to leave with the money they stole. Someone destroys the antidote, meaning that the hostage-takers can no longer save the hostages. What happens to the hostage-takers?
Well, because the hostages are effectively dead, anyways, there are no longer incentives to listen to the hostage-takers’ demands. The SWAT team no longer cares about “collateral damage” of dead hostages from a raid because they’re already dead.
Russia holds Europe’s natural gas supply hostage. Natural gas is needed to heat homes, provide electricity, and as a feed stock for industry. Russia, in controlling pipelines, had leverage to restore gas service in exchange for a favorable peace.
Whomever destroyed the pipeline has also killed the hostage and destroyed much of Russia’s leverage. Russia can no longer restore gas service, thus, they have nothing to offer in exchange for a favorable peace. There no longer exists an outcome where Russia “wins” and Europe doesn’t lose. Thus, Russia’s only option now is to win militarily because Russia can no longer win diplomatically.
Europe will lose no matter what. The antidote has been destroyed. They will not be able to heat their homes or run their factories. Europe will collapse this winter, so they must win this war militarily because there is no diplomatic victory available to them.
Well, because the hostages are effectively dead, anyways, there are no longer incentives to listen to the hostage-takers’ demands. The SWAT team no longer cares about “collateral damage” of dead hostages from a raid because they’re already dead.
Russia holds Europe’s natural gas supply hostage. Natural gas is needed to heat homes, provide electricity, and as a feed stock for industry. Russia, in controlling pipelines, had leverage to restore gas service in exchange for a favorable peace.
Whomever destroyed the pipeline has also killed the hostage and destroyed much of Russia’s leverage. Russia can no longer restore gas service, thus, they have nothing to offer in exchange for a favorable peace. There no longer exists an outcome where Russia “wins” and Europe doesn’t lose. Thus, Russia’s only option now is to win militarily because Russia can no longer win diplomatically.
Europe will lose no matter what. The antidote has been destroyed. They will not be able to heat their homes or run their factories. Europe will collapse this winter, so they must win this war militarily because there is no diplomatic victory available to them.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 12:21 pm
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's completely irrational and unjustified.
You are projecting on the UN, NATO and the U.S. a level of respectability and honesty that I doubt Putin shares.
I probably wouldn't either if I was him. Actually I don't and I'm me.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How can there be "globalism" when the US fractures the very relationships that create it? The US and EU being at odds with each other would literally rewrite the world order and unwind anything that could ever be imagined as "globalist".
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Wut, wut? I thought you were cool attributing another's position to parroting propaganda without evidence.
Wut
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
The only thing the EU was successful in accomplishing was placing Europe under one governing body. That made it more simple for unification into a future larger body like WEF (NWO).
All you had to do was watch how Obama himself campaigned against Brexit tooth and nail because it signaled a breech in the EU dike. Now you have Italy going far right.
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been billed as Big Guy Commie vs. Little Guy seeking Democracy. Which is what the media would have every person believing.
The war is actually about where Natural Gas will be supplied. Biden is entrenched in Ukraine and wants the NG flowing from their to Europe, not from Russia.
Ukraine is being propped up by the WEF (NWO) to maintain their corruption hotline and control that was created under Obama. Putin gaining control over Ukraine would effectively end all of that.
All you had to do was watch how Obama himself campaigned against Brexit tooth and nail because it signaled a breech in the EU dike. Now you have Italy going far right.
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been billed as Big Guy Commie vs. Little Guy seeking Democracy. Which is what the media would have every person believing.
The war is actually about where Natural Gas will be supplied. Biden is entrenched in Ukraine and wants the NG flowing from their to Europe, not from Russia.
Ukraine is being propped up by the WEF (NWO) to maintain their corruption hotline and control that was created under Obama. Putin gaining control over Ukraine would effectively end all of that.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:45 pm to Taxing Authority
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Already mentioned. Sri Lanka's farming practices. Dutch farming practices. Canada's coming ban on fertilizer are the first ones that come to mind. But damn near every government has some sort of "net zero by 2035" agenda they are in the middle of implementing. Have you been asleep the last five years?
Wait what? You're going to put every environmental regulation on the back of the WEF? Remember what I said about vagueness?
And Sir Lanka was allegedly trying to renegotiated with the IMF, not doing the WEF's bidding. Unless you're arguing that the WEF controls the IMF now, too.
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You asked for legislative actions. The WEF isn't a government. Asking proof of something not possible is silly.
Because they're not that influential.
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Yea. They've been mislabled.
Tomato tomato.
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That fits the very definition of a boogeyman.
Yes that's the point. Define your threat as broadly and vaguely as possible so anything can become a boogeyman.
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e been mislabled. That fits the very definition of a boogeyman. No one has disputed that. I'm not sure who you're arguing that with
Take fascism and then do the same with "globalism".
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Fascist policies? Nope.
According to some, sure?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:46 pm to Taxing Authority
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Wut, wut? I thought you were cool attributing another's position to parroting propaganda without evidence
What Biden policy have I even been promoting in this thread?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Define globalism
Unified/single source world leadrship.
You have to break everything/everyone to get the masses to sign on to the concept as the "answer".
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I've been asking for a definition of Globalism for going on 6 years now.
Why do you think people are having trouble defining globalism?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:53 pm to Decatur
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Why do you think people are having trouble defining globalism?
The same reason why racism, fascism, etc. are equally as vague/malleable from Leftists.
Oh I have a better one:
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your mom is infrastructure!
Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Surely people disagree can disagree over definitions. But I can go to a dictionary to give you standard definitions. I can tell you I agree with Paxton about fascism. That’s not hard at all.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I just notice things
You're one of them
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:02 pm to El Magnifico
Ah nevermind
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:07 pm to Decatur
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Define the Great Reset
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The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.
As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.
Using an "emergency" to consolidate power and wealth by erasing nation-states, national sovereignty, individual freedoms, recognized legal statuses, and economic independence by decree of unelected bureaucrats.
What else would you like to know, champ?
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:08 pm to upgrayedd
You get the prize for getting it right. 
The right quote at least. But then you start losing it with your commentary.
The right quote at least. But then you start losing it with your commentary.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:13 pm to Decatur
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The right quote at least. But then you start losing it with your commentary.
The Great Reset could also be called The Great Redistribution, because that's the real theory behind it.
The problem, like with all authoritarian nonsense, is the sales pitch won't be the reality once you cede power to that authority.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:15 pm to Decatur
The way in which I define globalism is in consolidating decision making above the national level. Globalism is about putting the interests of multi-national corporations above the interests and authority of nation-states. Often times, rights of the people and powers of local, state, and national governments are seen as impediments to the desires of globalism.
The end game of globalism appears to be a single unified planetary government ruling over a populace with no real rights, property, or actual say in what that government does.
Globalism often behaves in a fascist manner, silencing dissent, partnering with business, and removing democratic oversight. Globalists also often engage in similar campaigns dividing individuals into “us” and “them” much in the same way as 20th century fascists. The big difference is that 20th century fascists tended to be hyper nationalist and rooted in maintaining traditions of their dominant cultures where globalism sees nationalism and traditions as impediments to instilling a more global identity in people to erode their support for institutions which oppose globalism.
The end game of globalism appears to be a single unified planetary government ruling over a populace with no real rights, property, or actual say in what that government does.
Globalism often behaves in a fascist manner, silencing dissent, partnering with business, and removing democratic oversight. Globalists also often engage in similar campaigns dividing individuals into “us” and “them” much in the same way as 20th century fascists. The big difference is that 20th century fascists tended to be hyper nationalist and rooted in maintaining traditions of their dominant cultures where globalism sees nationalism and traditions as impediments to instilling a more global identity in people to erode their support for institutions which oppose globalism.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The Great Reset could also be called The Great Redistribution, because that's the real theory behind it.
The problem, like with all authoritarian nonsense, is the sales pitch won't be the reality once you cede power to that authority.
Bro, there's absolutely no danger in combining governments and multinational corporations to coordinate a global shift of existence
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The Great Reset could also be called The Great Redistribution
Not really
It’s the opposite in practice. All the wealth would be on top and funneled down via a subscription model based on each member of society’s “behavior”
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