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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:25 pm to Good Times
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:25 pm to Good Times
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The powerful want their safe distance. Think of gated communities.
With ICBMS and nuclear-armed subs, etc. distance isn't that important. Again, this is dinosaur thinking (Which Russia is prone to have).
The only way Russia was threatened with an actual invasion was if they did something similar to this invasion in Ukraine. Nobody was ever going to be the aggressor in that situation and cross the border with troops.
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your a fricking idiot! I hope you
Don’t have kids.
Don’t have kids.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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"by and large" is a nice qualifier. T
Russia, NK, Afghanistan, some African countries, and the ME are outliers.
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The country that we were in the Cold War with is fighting an actual war with one of our allies, and we are mainly funding their defense.
Cool, the only relevant part of that is the conditions prior to Russia's invasion, which was what you were responding to.
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The State Department has issued a: Russia Travel Advisory: Do Not Travel and Leave Immediately
Kind of Cold War-ish if you ask me.
Russia is assho
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:27 pm to SOCAL TIGER
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Your a fricking idiot!
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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stupid decision for Mexico to make.
Irrelevant to my point.
Borders are important, I don't give a shite how many ICBMs you have. People don't want aggressors, real or imagined, on their borders.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Cool, the only relevant part of that is the conditions prior to Russia's invasion, which was what you were responding to.
Yay. The Cold War is over.
Proxy shooting war with Russia, NBD.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:49 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Irrelevant to my point.
Of course it is, because your point requires irrational actors or stupid actors.
The modern system of the international "liberal world order" has flaws, but it's built on being more open, transparent, and rational. That's why it's been so successful (and why Russia hasn't been able to become powerful or dominant like they once were).
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People don't want aggressors, real or imagined, on their borders.
And there are ways to prevent the threat. Namely, adopting modern values and engaging in open, respectful, and good-faith international deals. That's what we've done with Mexico and Canada. They're possibly our 2 closest allies. The amount of bribery it would take to have them turn their back on us would be in the trillions.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Proxy shooting war with Russia, NBD.
Russia is either an irrational actor or acting in bad faith in an attempt to annex strategic land to have access to Crimea and water.
Russia has never been a fan of playing well with others, so either is possible. I go with the latter option, but many on here defend former option.
Russia is going to pay dearly for this mistake. Europe and the US will, too, but not as much as Russia, long-term. The only reason Russia hasn't felt real fury is because they have nukes and China (the real power) kind of sort of has their back. China is starting to back off of their support of Russia, which is not good for Putin.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
You got these baws going.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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your point requires irrational actors or stupid actors.
And? There are irrational and stupid actors on the world stage and there always have been. They can change in one election.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:08 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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And?
In a rational world, the rational actors will have to deal with them, likely with force.
Again, irrational actors don't make rational decisions. Nothing will satisfy their emotional thinking except whatever random emotional goal they've created in their head. That's Russia. Borders are irrelevant.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
The winners and losers of this will not be known for quite some time, so whether is was irrational is yet to be seen.
It certainly seems like a stupid move to invade Ukraine, but who knows?
The supposed rational actors make irrational moves all the time.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:20 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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certainly seems like a stupid move to invade Ukraine, but who knows?
Unless reports of dirty labs along the Eastern border are true, it becomes a multiple bonus for Putin. Rids labs, creates buffer, gives Russian sympathizers their desire to be absorbed.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:21 pm to Good Times
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Unless reports of dirty labs along the Eastern border are true
We're 7 months into this...
You don't think they would have found something by now?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:23 pm to Good Times
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Unless reports of dirty labs along the Eastern border are true,
Bro. Those disinfo memes are deader than disco.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:24 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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There are irrational and stupid actors on the world stage and there always have been.
This is a pained description of geopolitics, where irrationality punished thoroughly. Even actors people might regard as 'irrational,' such as Iran, are exceedingly rational at the geopolitical level, as their entire foreign policy is to gain leverage in whatever way they can in order to gain concessions in negotiations. The military and security apparatuses of various countries aren't stupid. Even in this situation Putin wasn't stupid, but didn't have optimal information due to the nature of the Russian state.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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The winners and losers of this will not be known for quite some time, so whether is was irrational is yet to be seen.
No, we can make that judgement now, without thinking about rationality or irrationality. If Putin's objective was to use the Carpathian Mountains to decrease the distance the Russians have to defend in regard to their western frontier, they failed thoroughly, as not only is it unlikely they will reach the Carpathians, it is also they also have extended their land border with NATO by 800 miles. In addition, Sweden and Finland's addition to NATO means that their access to Kaliningrad is at stake, and their connection to the Atlantic is at the behest of NATO powers. Even more, their access to the Mediterranean from the Black Sea is also at the behest of NATO and their holdings in the Pacific might also be contested, as Japan has claims to the Kuril Islands, and that dispute was ramping up before Russia invaded as well. With Canadian and Nordic competition in the Arctic, their security situation is far worse than it would have been if they had not invaded. Even winning in Ukraine doesn't somehow upend the lopsided security issues they face, all in the context of demographic cratering. Russia has had more births than deaths something like 16 out of the last 20 years, and only 3 regions have TFR's above replacement. They are in a terrible situation.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don’t know which I find more unsettling — slomo’s retardism or that 9 other posters upvoted this retard.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Klaus Schwab and the WEF are either powerful European leaders of globalism or cucks to US domination. They can't be both.
Globalism = Hegemony of the Western Central Bankers you fricking retard.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Those disinfo memes are deader than disco.
You might want to give the DOD a heads up, since they've copped to sponsoring those labs.
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