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re: Barna research says 32 million churchgoing Christians are sitting out the election
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:12 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:12 pm to dgnx6
quote:Im here to provide a Christian worldview and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ. I’ve been doing that for a long time here.
If you aren’t going to vote and put your trust in God, why waste time on a political forum?
It means nothing in that sense.
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:31 pm to NytroBud
All this squabbling about Trump and Christianity is funny considering Trump’s clearly had a spiritual awakening and has made numerous references to him believing God saved him in Butler, PA for a reason.
God has a long history of using unlikely sinners in roles to serve for His purpose. Some people should read the Bible every once in a while.
God has a long history of using unlikely sinners in roles to serve for His purpose. Some people should read the Bible every once in a while.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:53 pm to The Boat
Jesus said that the road to heaven is long and narrow, most people will never take that path.
Trump is on the right path but a long journey in front of him.
Trump is on the right path but a long journey in front of him.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:23 pm to gaetti15
Me:
You and your apologist link:
Catholic apologist website
I know how you guys think. But check the Hebrew and you will find it refers to the thing inside her body will fall out. Many translations say her “thigh” will fall out. Ancient Hebrew scribes had an aversion to directly saying penis or vagina or female reproductive organs. They used a Hebrew word commonly rendered “thigh” in English. It ain’t talking about her thigh dude. It is god sanctioned abortion. But anything God does is good, no matter if it’s really evil, so you shouldn’t have a problem with it.
Bitter water that causes a curse? That’s poison, brah.
Ever heard of someone eating charcoal or ashes to stop the body from absorbing poison? That’s what the priest would do when he was mixing in ashes of dead animals from the tabernacle floor. The priests knew the poison would cause a miscarriage 100% of the time. By controlling how much ashes they mixed into the poison, they controlled the likelihood of the poison causing the abortion. It’s pretty slick. If the priests believed the woman, they would give her a hefty amount of ashes (carbon) in her poison.
Here you go - you might actually learn something interesting and informative:
Legal-Religious Status of the Suspected Adulteress (Sotah) - Jewish Women’s Archive
quote:
I’m sure some nuts will chime in saying that the woman won’t be able to have future children (not an abortion of her current pregnancy)
You and your apologist link:
Catholic apologist website
quote:
It is important to note that the “reward” for innocence is that she will be able to conceive children, which seems to imply that even if she was infertile she would no longer be. This would also seem to imply that miscarriage is not what is being referred to as divine punishment but rather infertility.
I know how you guys think. But check the Hebrew and you will find it refers to the thing inside her body will fall out. Many translations say her “thigh” will fall out. Ancient Hebrew scribes had an aversion to directly saying penis or vagina or female reproductive organs. They used a Hebrew word commonly rendered “thigh” in English. It ain’t talking about her thigh dude. It is god sanctioned abortion. But anything God does is good, no matter if it’s really evil, so you shouldn’t have a problem with it.
Bitter water that causes a curse? That’s poison, brah.
Ever heard of someone eating charcoal or ashes to stop the body from absorbing poison? That’s what the priest would do when he was mixing in ashes of dead animals from the tabernacle floor. The priests knew the poison would cause a miscarriage 100% of the time. By controlling how much ashes they mixed into the poison, they controlled the likelihood of the poison causing the abortion. It’s pretty slick. If the priests believed the woman, they would give her a hefty amount of ashes (carbon) in her poison.
Here you go - you might actually learn something interesting and informative:
Legal-Religious Status of the Suspected Adulteress (Sotah) - Jewish Women’s Archive
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:12 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:"there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved" -Acts 4:12
Squirrelmeister
Repent at the name of Jesus Christ for your own salvation. You are an enemy of God, your creator, and you will pay the debt that your sins against Him owe if you do not turn from them and trust in Jesus to pay that price for you.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:24 am to Night Vision
Calling absolute bs
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:25 am to FooManChoo
quote:
FooManChoo
Never change, never learn, never admit, and never tell the truth.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:31 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." -John 14:6
Never change, never learn, never admit, and never tell the truth.
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:05 am to FooManChoo
quote:
FooManChoo
“keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation.”
- Exodus 34:7
Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
- Deuteronomy 24:16
You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me
- Deuteronomy 5:9
The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”
- Ezekiel 18:20
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
- Romans 5:12
But he did not put their children to death, according to what is written in the Law, in the Book of Moses, where the LORD commanded, “Fathers shall not die because of their children, nor children die because of their fathers, but each one shall die for his own sin.
- 2 Chronicles 25:4
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
- 1 Samuel 15:3
quote:
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." -John 14:6
Some nut wrote this on a papyrus or a goat skin 18 centuries ago and you believe it because you want to believe it, not because it is evidently true. You have just enough reason to believe in the Koran or the Book or Mormon which is to say you have no reason at all.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:15 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:"Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins" - Acts 2:38
Squirrelmeister
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:15 am to FooManChoo
Dr Frank Turek explains why every Christian needs to be voting in the upcoming election
I went out this morning and took the beagle hound on a three mile walk and while I was walking I was thinking a lot about your decision not to vote this year. I believe your reason for not voting is because Trump is too liberal with his abortion beliefs and therefore he is not a candidate a devout Christian should be supporting.
I fully understand your feelings about not supporting a candidate who has liberal abortion beliefs but in reality you and I are not voting for Trump, in reality we are voting against the Cultural Marxism slippery slope incrementalism that has brought us to this place in US history....it's so much bigger than Trump. Trump is an opportunity to throw a wrench in the Cultural Marxists plans for fundamentally transforming the US into a Cultural Marxist dystopian nightmare.
Listen to Dr Frank Turek explain why it's a reasonable and prudent decision for every Christian to be voting this year. It's a full +45 minute show, listen at your leisure.
Quick side note, I was listening to some YouTube content while walking the beagle and that Frank Turek video loaded up automatically...
God bless ya Foo.
I went out this morning and took the beagle hound on a three mile walk and while I was walking I was thinking a lot about your decision not to vote this year. I believe your reason for not voting is because Trump is too liberal with his abortion beliefs and therefore he is not a candidate a devout Christian should be supporting.
I fully understand your feelings about not supporting a candidate who has liberal abortion beliefs but in reality you and I are not voting for Trump, in reality we are voting against the Cultural Marxism slippery slope incrementalism that has brought us to this place in US history....it's so much bigger than Trump. Trump is an opportunity to throw a wrench in the Cultural Marxists plans for fundamentally transforming the US into a Cultural Marxist dystopian nightmare.
Listen to Dr Frank Turek explain why it's a reasonable and prudent decision for every Christian to be voting this year. It's a full +45 minute show, listen at your leisure.
Quick side note, I was listening to some YouTube content while walking the beagle and that Frank Turek video loaded up automatically...
God bless ya Foo.
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:47 am to Bass Tiger
Thank you for the post and for the link. I’ll give it a listen while I do some chores today 
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:59 am to FooManChoo
Help me out, are my children going to be punished for my sins or will the be responsible for only their own sins?
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:04 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Some nut wrote this on a papyrus or a goat skin 18 centuries ago and you believe it because you want to believe it, not because it is evidently true. You have just enough reason to believe in the Koran or the Book or Mormon which is to say you have no reason at all.
You list a bunch of OT scriptures as a 'gottcha.' It only shows your ignorance, as Christians are no longer under law.
From Luke 10:
On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
“What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”
“You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:05 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Squirrelmeister
You don’t want the help you need.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” -John 3:16
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:22 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
You don’t want the help you need.
You can’t answer the question. The staff contradiction is child play compared to this one.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:30 pm to Enadious
quote:
You list a bunch of OT scriptures as a 'gottcha.' It only shows your ignorance, as Christians are no longer under law.
The beauty of the Bible is that whatever you guys pick and choose, I can pick and choose from it that says the opposite.
quote:
17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Last I checked the “until all is accomplished” hasn’t been fulfilled yet since heaven and earth haven’t passed away yet. Therefore you must keep all the commandments of the Torah as a Christian.
You guys love to reject what you believe Jesus said in favor of what you believe Paul really said.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:46 pm to Boss13
I've never heard anything about Kamala's religious leaning, but Trump is definitely anti Christian
Posted on 10/12/24 at 1:01 pm to tarzana
quote:
I've never heard anything about Kamala's religious leaning, but Trump is definitely anti Christian
The only reason you haven't heard anything about Kamala's religious beliefs is because they would probably hurt her chances.
You should be ashamed of yourself for the lack of vetting you allow because she is a Dem. If I didn't like anything about Trump, I would at least know the media will report on and hold him accountable for every decision he makes. Can't say the same for any (D)s in the past three decades.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 1:14 pm to FooManChoo
Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.
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