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re: Barna research says 32 million churchgoing Christians are sitting out the election
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:29 pm to Jbird
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:29 pm to Jbird
So Trump gets picked and is allowed back in the chair what’s the move on day 1 the savior is back what’s the first thing on the agenda you think? Arrest the entire government?
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:30 pm to StarksofWinterfell8
Tariffs and illegals
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:40 pm to FooManChoo
Yes you do. That’s a load of crap. You have an enormous amount of places to shop for your family. But you could care less about who you give your money to in those scenarios. It’s about convenience to you, just like everyone else. But, go ahead and stay home on Election Day and stay silent, because DJT is perfect enough for you. But if Harris somehow manages to win and things go to hell, stay silent then also.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:53 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Apologies, then, for responding to the wrong person on that.
I wasn’t the one saying that you don’t need to attend church, that would be your partner in crime
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:54 pm to Rip Torn
quote:I disagree. The Scriptures from beginning to end show God's graciousness in salvation to a people who do not deserve it and cannot save themselves. Calvinism is merely the Biblical teaching that God monergistically saves a people for His own glory. I'd be happy to show my work but would rather not derail this further.
You’re a Calvinist? Makes sense now, you literally don’t know the scriptures that you profess to piously uphold
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:58 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Huh? Why do you think being a Calvinist makes me think Trump cannot be saved?
Calvinistquote:
So you believe Trump cannot be saved?
quote:Yes, David was a pretty awful sinner, but he was repentant. That's what I'd like to see from Trump. Instead, Trump apparently doesn't think he needs forgiveness for anything ( source). I hope he's changed his tune.
Yet David was. Even though he was far worse as a leader than Trump has ever been. David had a man murdered, so that he could commit adultery "legally"?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:59 pm to yakster
It’s gonna go to hell either way because the entire government is so rotten. How do you think we got to this point
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:59 pm to TDTOM
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How do they come up with that number?
Pulled it straight out of their arse. There is no polling company that could remotely poll 32 million people even if they had everyone's phone #.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:00 pm to yakster
quote:Like I said, I don't always have a choice.
Yes you do. That’s a load of crap. You have an enormous amount of places to shop for your family. But you could care less about who you give your money to in those scenarios. It’s about convenience to you, just like everyone else. But, go ahead and stay home on Election Day and stay silent, because DJT is perfect enough for you. But if Harris somehow manages to win and things go to hell, stay silent then also.
However, it's not quite the same thing as voting for a leader to represent you to the nation and to other nations. I'm not wholly against commerce with sinners (we're all sinners), however when I'm selecting someone to represent me as a leader, I can't just vote for anyone.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:06 pm to dalefla
The fact they’re willing to admit 32 means its a hell of a lot more. MSM is obviously very invested in getting people to care
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:33 pm to Boss13
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churches where abortion is somehow sactioned by God?
Numbers 5:
quote:
23“ ‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.
God-sanctioned abortion. If a husband suspects his wife cheated on him and is pregnant, he can take her to a priest who will make a poison concoction that the woman is forced to drink. Part of the poison production process is to mix in enough carbon from the ashes of burnt goats from the tabernacle floor so that she carbon will absorb some of the poison so that there’s a chance she might not miscarry. It’s very scientific.
I’m sure some nuts will chime in saying that the woman won’t be able to have future children (not an abortion of her current pregnancy) or that god can kill whoever he wants for any reason and that’s a good thing. To you nuts: you suck!
Have a nice weekend.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:34 pm to Night Vision
Nobody was asked at my church and I know nearly %95 are voting and its not for her.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:38 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:
God-sanctioned abortion. If a husband suspects his wife cheated on him and is pregnant, he can take her to a priest who will make a poison concoction that the woman is forced to drink. Part of the poison production process is to mix in enough carbon from the ashes of burnt goats from the tabernacle floor so that she carbon will absorb some of the poison so that there’s a chance she might not miscarry. It’s very scientific.
Does Numbers 5 mean abortion is OK
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:55 pm to FooManChoo
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I'll be sitting this one out this year. As much as I do hope Trump wins over Harris, I can't give my endorsement to anyone who doesn't seek Christ's kingdom and seeks to govern for His glory above all else.
Holier than thou FoolManChoo
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:11 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
I am serious and I fully understand that most people will not understand my reasoning or think it is not good enough to sit out.
I voted for Trump two other times, but I can't do it a third time due to a change in my own convictions on the matter.
You are voting for the Federal Judiciary appointments and potential SC nominations DJT will make.
The Dems ultimately want to control every aspect of your life. The judiciary is the most effective hedge against this.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:20 pm to NytroBud
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:21 pm to Night Vision
Churches need donations. Church members are struggling financially. Need I say more?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:40 pm to FooManChoo
“Never go full Retard”
if this is not some trolling joke of yours, you need to step outside of your brain and realize that the UNIPARTY is literally Satan’s Party, and by NOT VOTING for Trump is a vote for the Demonic Communist Banking Cartel
that will destroy what is left of our freedoms.
your a buffoon if you can’t see this,
if this is not some trolling joke of yours, you need to step outside of your brain and realize that the UNIPARTY is literally Satan’s Party, and by NOT VOTING for Trump is a vote for the Demonic Communist Banking Cartel
that will destroy what is left of our freedoms.
your a buffoon if you can’t see this,
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:52 pm to longtooth
quote:I would be voting for Trump and all that goes with him.
You are voting for the Federal Judiciary appointments and potential SC nominations DJT will make.
quote:I don’t trust in men, whether they be Presidents or Justices.
The Dems ultimately want to control every aspect of your life. The judiciary is the most effective hedge against this.
I’ve said it multiple times now that I don’t expect others to agree with me on this. My views are not based on what’s most pragmatic, so therefore arguments of pragmatism are not going to change my mind back.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:59 pm to FooManChoo
If you aren’t going to vote and put your trust in God, why waste time on a political forum?
It means nothing in that sense.
But if I were a devout Christian I know I’d still side with Trump on this one. The left wing has proven over and over they are anti Christian.
It means nothing in that sense.
But if I were a devout Christian I know I’d still side with Trump on this one. The left wing has proven over and over they are anti Christian.
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