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re: Bank Citizenship Proof Exec order in process

Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32639 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:43 am to
Is there some legal authority that the admin can point to that would authorize this?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475847 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:45 am to
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Is there some legal authority that the admin can point to that would authorize this?


Banks are highly regulated so I'm assuming there is something that would work.

The question is if the admin will frick it up like they did the tariff authorization
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56794 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:45 am to
I’m ok with that as long as they give them their money back. This is wrong if they keep their money.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5199 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:49 am to
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 It is one thing to get rid of all the accounts of people or businesses here illegally, and a whole different thing to close every account of every non-citizen. 


Would. Not. Be. A. Good. Thing.

Especially if places like the EU reciprocate. I have an interest in this.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5199 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:52 am to
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Illegals are already being paid in cash mostly and I imagine banking isn't that easy of an option for them, regardless.


You would be surprised at how many people, who are here illegally, get paid via direct deposit.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13992 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:57 am to
This would have little impact on illegals and way more impact on people here legally. People here illegally already very rarely have bank accounts. People here that are LPR's or here on employment visas do however.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21709 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 9:57 am to
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I’m ok with that as long as they give them their money back. This is wrong if they keep their money.



Or they could freeze it for illegals like they do with drug dealers and refund it only after receiving proof of self-deportation. If we have to deport then, we can refund whatever the have left after recovering our cost re fines
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 9:59 am
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4910 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:05 am to
Dumb idea - requiring private business to do your immigration enforcement.

Say goodbye to your free checking and 6% mortgage - This kind of stuff is expensive.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13976 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:05 am to
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may help, but people will use Venmo, apple pay, cash, etc.


I connected Venmo to a bank account. Can you connect it to something else?

I'm guessing/hoping that will be modified to just illegals. People on visas, etc should be able to bank here. They've done things properly and are contributing. I will say, I worked in a foreign country and it was definitely a process to get a bank account, but frankly that's how it should be.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
7704 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:15 am to
Sounds good. Won’t happen.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1461 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:34 am to
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Illegals can’t get paid, can’t wire money, can’t live off the system


I worked in a grocery store in college that was next to a Mexican Restaurant. They would cash payroll checks and had Western Union money orders. Every Friday the workers form the Mexican restaurant would come over with their checks, cash them, get half the money in a Money Order that they would send back to Mexico and would buy a case of beer with the cash.

This is what most of the small level laborers are doing. They don't have bank accounts and they don't wire money. They use check cashing places or get paid in cash and they use money orders to send money back home.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:40 am to
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This will be a great way to cause a run on banks.


I can't think of a better way to identify illegals and fraudulent accounts.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10903 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:42 am to
blanket blocking order for non citizens would not work. US commercial activity with rest of world wood be locked up.

but tying foreign transfers to a valid income tax return would work wonderfully in cutting down stolen money, scammed money, illegal benefit money etc
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:42 am to
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Especially if places like the EU reciprocate.


So you are living/working abroad without a proper visa then?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5199 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:47 am to
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So you are living/working abroad without a proper visa then?


Bruuuuuhhhhh....

You do realize I do not have to live in a certain country to earn income in that country and keep a bank account in that country

You also realize that the wording, as given, would make that impossible here and may (big may) cause the EU to pass reciprocating policies.

I know, it is alot to keep track of, but do try your best.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 10:48 am
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3316 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:47 am to
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I’m ok with that as long as they give them their money back. This is wrong if they keep their money


If they’re illegal they should have as much confiscated as they’ve pulled from the system.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:03 am to
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You do realize I do not have to live in a certain country to earn income in that country and keep a bank account in that country


Sounds like the EU countries would love to have this income back for their own citizens, no matter what we do.

This would be as good of an excuse as any if they choose to do it.

But that's 100% on them, assuming what your are doing is legal.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37045 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:06 am to
This is completely unworkable and will get smacked down.

There are way too many visa holders and legal permanent residents, diplomats, etc etc etc here to shut off all non-citizens from the banking industry.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30355 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:19 am to
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So you are living/working abroad without a proper visa then?


First, the tweet says non-citizens, so if that happens and other countries reciprocate in kind visas won't have anything to do with getting an account closed.

Second, not everyone flips burgers for a living, so they can make an income in distant locations without being there. Sometimes it is prudent or even necessary to have a local account for distant income generation.

Plus what does one have to do to verify one's citizenship? Will it have to be done in person? What about the online banks we have now?

It seems (just based on the tweet) they are looking for a simple solution to a complex problem. Those rarely work. They need to be looking for an elegant solution. This is the government attempting to use private business to do its job. Since it will involve a lot of governmental red tape and oversight, citizens will have to pay twice. One to the government and once to the banks because the banks won't do this for free and it will cost everyone with an account.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5199 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 11:56 am to
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Sounds like the EU countries would love to have this income back for their own citizens, no matter what we do.

My income does not take away from any income an EU citizen would make.
quote:

But that's 100% on them, assuming what your are doing is legal.

Very big assumption...

Of course it is. I own a couple short term rentals. Property ownership is allowed and when I am not there, rental of said property is allowed.

But the income is not the issue. I keep a bank account there so when I am there, I have money without need of conversion rates and such.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 11:57 am
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