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re: Autism and Vaccines. Protect your kids and grandkids.

Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:47 am to
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1274 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:47 am to
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Allowing your kid to get those “vaccines” should be considered a form of child abuse.

Having witnessed multiple toddlers going from very bright to ASD directly after receiving vaccines, I suspect a connection between Autism and vaccines.

A guy I work with had a perfectly normal little girl, at 18 months got vaccines and shifted to low function autism within a day. The kid is very low function, (heart breaking).

An extended family member, 18 month perfect boy and very smart shifted to mid-high function autism in a few days after vaccines. Now he is 3 years old and he is still on the ASD spectrum.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37196 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:58 am to
Of those 74 available, how many are required for school? What if, not unlike ADHD, autism is being over diagnosed. OR in earlier years, it was under diagnosed. How do you arrive 1 in 2 by 2025? That's a major step!
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21434 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:52 pm to
low functioning autism is clearly on the rise. I never dealt with a kid like that growing up but these days we have several friends with kids who have low functioning autism and it is heartbreaking. This isn't Asperger's type stuff where you can be super high functioning and just socially retarded. The asperger numbers are clearly driving up autism rates, too. Low functioning autism is terrible. Kids can't communicate. They cant emotionally process. They can't learn simple things at the same rate.

I and plenty of kids I knew were on the Asperger's spectrum growing up. Things are changing.

This doesn't even get into the fact that tons of testing has shown that brain tissue samples from the deceased who had mental issues like autism, dementia, alzheimers, etc. show massive amounts of aluminum present.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3153 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Childhood Vaccines 1983 = 10 vaccines 2013 = 32 vaccines 2022 = 74 vaccines Autism Rates 1983 = 1 in 10,000 2013 = 1 in 88 2022 = 1 in 36 2025… estimates 1 in 2


That there is the textbook definition of causation.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42376 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 1:04 pm to
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But that's only anecdotal observations by me.


So your anecdotal observations concerning Covid are legitimate, but mine aren’t concerning autism (in the public school setting).

What makes your observations “more” legitimate?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14687 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Then where are the 40, 50, 60, etc. year old autistic individuals?


They are out there.

Anyone moderate to severely impaired would have already received a diagnosis of some type long ago.

For someone high functioning, or with mild impairment, a diagnosis doesn't do much good later in life. Autism isn't curable nor is it treated with medicine. Autism is diagnosed early and treated with various therapies. Autistic children need to be taught what neurotypical kids learn naturally.

There's likely not much that can be done for a mildly impaired middle aged adult that has already figured out how to navigate life and social situations to the best of their ability without any assistance. These people aren't going to get a clinical diagnosis.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 1:41 pm to
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You’d be way better off working harder to make more $$


Uh, working harder doesn't necessarily equate to more money. Maybe you should have said working more hours makes you more money. That sucks also if you're already putting in 40-50 hours a week.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37196 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Many people who went to regular old public schools seem to forget about the folks practically sequestered in the Special Education program.
I was in school throughout the 60s. Now it was a smaller rural school but I do not remember one sped my entire time in school. I wonder did the child just stay home because the school had nothing for them. Maybe they went to places that that's all they do is care for children with learning or physical disabilities.
Posted by domesticengineer
Member since Oct 2017
252 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:26 pm to
Joe Rogan episode 1999. Lots of information regarding vaccines and the truth about what is in them and why some can be harmful.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:36 pm to
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So your anecdotal observations concerning Covid are legitimate, but mine aren’t concerning autism (in the public school setting).




I never suggested this. I simply disclosed that it was my experience.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4940 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:46 pm to
Because Americans haven't been putting new and unnatural things in their homes and bodies over the past 40 years other than vaccines.

And hate to tell you but anyone who knows anything about autism knows that the umbrella used to diagnose autism has grown a great deal in the past 40 years.

fricking idiot.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 2:47 pm
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4940 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:53 pm to
The argument is correlation does not mean causation.

1) The criteria for being diagnosed with autism has increased a great deal over the past 40 years. Children that are now considered only low end moderate or mild would likely not have been diagnosed as autistic 40 years ago.

2) You are going to ignore the laundry list of other environmental factors that have changed over the past 40 years? Why not cell phone usage. Why not the huge jump in consumer electronics and all of the chemicals that were brought into the homes?
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5903 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Not saying pharma doesn’t have some badness, but the benefits far outweigh any risk.
there are no benefits
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5903 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:59 pm to
if you or yor family has an autistic,look into suramin,they will tell you it is not an approved drug,because it works
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67625 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:02 pm to
The vaccine - autism link was debunked decades ago. That’s very old news. Some of you really need a bogeyman, especially if it might be a vehicle to attack
The “establishment”, whatever the hell that is.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53977 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:08 pm to
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quote:Many people who went to regular old public schools seem to forget about the folks practically sequestered in the Special Education program.

I was in school throughout the 60s. Now it was a smaller rural school but I do not remember one sped my entire time in school. I wonder did the child just stay home because the school had nothing for them. Maybe they went to places that that's all they do is care for children with learning or physical disabilities.


Went to school from 1964-1977, back in that era there were Special Ed classes. Out of a school of 400-500 children their might be 10-15 kids in Special Ed. I never knew or heard of any kids prescribed psychotropic medications back then either. I do remember in the 80's a lot of kids were being prescribed Ritalin because they were determined to be unruly but I think the diagnosis was ADD. I just saw a report today on RAV that 1 in 8 Americans are on a prescribed psychotropic drug.....crazy.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:18 pm to
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It’s insane that Covid has turned so many seemingly intelligent people into anti-vax nut jobs.


Look what it's done to you. That statement alone is the epitome of ignorance & laziness.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:31 pm to
It's beyond amazing when people downvote irrefutable facts with no replies whatsoever, such as those I posted earlier in this thread. The very first sentence from my first link says it all...

"One of the most significant cultural transformations of the last two years has been the newfound glorification of the pharmaceutical industry."

Pfizer's history of fraud, corruption, and using Nigerian children as 'human guinea pigs'


How is anyone ok with the likes of Pfizer?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21434 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:33 pm to
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The vaccine - autism link was debunked decades ago. That’s very old news. Some of you really need a bogeyman, especially if it might be a vehicle to attack
The “establishment”, whatever the hell that is.


Not exactly true. Courts ordered CDC to remove that claim.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:41 pm to
The claim is still up.

LINK

i haven’t found a court order that they remove it.
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