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Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:14 pm to mmonro3
China is planning on taking over the world in 50 years and they make decisions based on that longterm goal. America worries about yesterday and today, assuming the future will work itself out.
We are in serious trouble if we don’t change our nation’s mindset.
We are in serious trouble if we don’t change our nation’s mindset.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:26 pm to BFIV
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Are our naval forces prepared for this?
The Navy probably needs a few more weeks to complete diversity training.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:39 pm to BFIV
China makes claims about military capabilities that turn out to be bullshite time after time. They've got one, one, somewhat operational aircraft carrier. Their latest LHD caught fire last year sitting in their shipyard and their other diesel aircraft carrier broke down on a test swim and had to be towed back. Nothing they have can launch heavy combat ready aircraft either, what is a long range missile going to do when the boat that's carrying it is being attacked by fighter jets launched even further away?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:43 pm to trilltiger
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Look up, bigger issues than China
not many issues bigger than China.they were to be the head of the new world order,part of the covid 19 scam,staling technology,manufacturing at near cost or sometime below to eliminate competitors,paying off all world leaders to control the global economy.stealing gold and minerals in africa,soon to be mining in afghanistan
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:44 pm to Bayoutigre
space force
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:54 pm to BFIV
Just wait until you read about Russia’s nuclear powered, nuclear-armed, long range torpedos.
Our military knows about these. The problem is are our countermeasures effective?
Our military knows about these. The problem is are our countermeasures effective?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:58 pm to BFIV
It took 4 weeks of bombing the USS America during a sinkex operation and we still had to scuttle the ship. They took data from that and applied it to the Ford class.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:06 pm to Clames
quote:There won't be a boat carrying it. Anti-ship ballistic missiles are land based and extremely long ranged. The issue is that (assuming these missiles work), US carriers could be destroyed before they were in the effective range for their aircraft to strike targets in China. In other words, carrier strike groups would be too vulnerable to even get close enough to the combat zone to be of any use.
what is a long range missile going to do when the boat that's carrying it is being attacked by fighter jets launched even further away?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:17 pm to BFIV
Carriers are 1922 tech. They are good against less abled opponents but ducks in the water vs top grade militaries.
"If it floats it can be sunk."
Elmer Fudd
"If it floats it can be sunk."
Elmer Fudd
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:17 pm to Epaminondas
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The issue is that (assuming these missiles work), US carriers could be destroyed before they were in the effective range for their aircraft to strike targets in China. In other words, carrier strike groups would be too vulnerable to even get close enough to the combat zone to be of any use.
I used to think that our military leadership was on top of things like this, evaluating the enemy’s weapons and tactics, etc.
And then they went woke, and abandoned Bagram before getting our citizens out, etc.
It doesn’t look good.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:25 pm to Epaminondas
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Anti-ship ballistic missiles are land based and extremely long ranged.
You put way too much faith in what the Chinese put out.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:27 pm to BFIV
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China has developed
Just wait until all of the equipment China Joe sold to the Taliban to deliver to China is reverse engineered. That is when it will really get scary.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:36 pm to Clames
I don't put any faith in what the Chinese put out. That's why I said "assuming these missiles work." In an earlier post I mentioned that it is very difficult to track and hit a moving target in the vast ocean with a ballistic missile.
China's anti-ship ballistic missiles may turn out to be worthless. But it won't be because US warplanes attack Chinese ships outside of the missile's range.
China's anti-ship ballistic missiles may turn out to be worthless. But it won't be because US warplanes attack Chinese ships outside of the missile's range.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:59 pm to Epaminondas
And it doesn’t need to work well to deter us
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:02 pm to BFIV
There was nothing in that article other than speculation on ways to get around the problem of targeting at the end of the run. Something that thus far, nobody has managed. This system is the Chinese pulling Reagan's Star Wars trick on us trying to spook our public with something that's not actually there. Sure you can fire the things, but until you can demonstrate that you can actually hit a ship with it that's in motion and maneuvering, this is fear porn for the US public.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:05 pm to BFIV
quote:Short answer: in development and testing at White Sands, China Lake and Vandenberg.
Do we have anything in our closet or in development to neutralize or equalize this threat?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:15 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Carrier battle groups are no longer effective against near peer engagements as has been proven in war games with allies.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:19 pm to BFIV
Sonic-schmonic. What is a super sonic anti-ship missile next to the power of a diverse and inclusive military? Better get your priorities straight, mister! 
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:31 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:Not as scary as all the white supremacists in the military.
that is genuinely scary
your pals,
LLoyd Austin, Secretary of Defense
Mark Mlley, JCS
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