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re: Are drivers licenses an example of government overreach?

Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:45 pm to
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Do they? How did they get this right? Who gave it to them?


I guess the same enitity that gave us the right to breathe air.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:46 pm to
This thread is hilarious. remarkably little immunity here against reductio...
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:48 pm to
So, no one has an opinion on my assertion that if the government is going to mandate registrations, licenses, etc for ANYTHING, there should be no cost associated with it.

It's the GOVERNMENT demanding it and the government already gets tax dollars. If the government can't afford to provide licensing services with it's general fund, then it should pound sand.

I'm OK with licenses but let's all be real. Almost all "licenses" and "registrations" are just revenue grabs.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:49 pm to
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I guess the same enitity that gave us the right to breathe air.


There are folks in this world that believe in that same god and aren’t allowed to travel freely, hold a license, or own a private vehicle.

Ur gubment made those things possible.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:49 pm to
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You are comparing a right under the U.S Constitution to a privilege.


I’m not. I’m arguing that if public safety is such a grave concern and therefore justifies license requirements, why are we limiting public safety concerns to only certain dangerous situations?

I’m not making an argument for gun restrictions. I’m making an argument for fewer restrictions period.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:51 pm to
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SallysHuman


No one cares about yalls faux outrage anymore
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:56 pm to
Likewise.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:58 pm to
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remarkably little immunity here against reductio...


I don’t want to make any assumptions - who is making the absurd argument?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:58 pm to
Ha. Maybe I lack the immunity.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110957 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Does this imply that the number of gun deaths would remain relatively the same even if passage of a written test was required?


Yeah, I suppose. It doesn’t ergo imply it is any way analogous to operating a vehicle, though.

Of course, don’t read that to imply licensure fir operating vehicles is one of my big cause celebres. I’m just not sure what that has to do with an object that is actually intended to kill people when operated properly.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31674 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 pm to
This a response thread for the other guy's thread complaining about govt overreach on pilot's licenses?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21747 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 pm to
You're entitled to move freely amongst the US. Not entitled to drive a car for travel.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm to
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I’m just not sure what that has to do with an object that is actually intended to kill people when operated properly.


Fair point.

I see motor vehicles as extremely dangerous so I picked the first other dangerous thing that came to mind. I truly don’t care about more or fewer gun restrictions. Laws are stupid. They exist solely to punish people.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm to
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So, no one has an opinion on my assertion that if the government is going to mandate registrations, licenses, etc for ANYTHING, there should be no cost associated with it. It's the GOVERNMENT demanding it and the government already gets tax dollars. If the government can't afford to provide licensing services with it's general fund, then it should pound sand. I'm OK with licenses but let's all be real. Almost all "licenses" and "registrations" are just revenue grabs.


I mean, you’re talking about a sizable chunk of revenue and budget. Either government programs suffer or taxes increase.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:04 pm to
No. It’s a thread about a philosophical topic because I’m not at all interested in discussing California or immigrants or Twitter.

I have a drivers license.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Laws are stupid. They exist solely to punish people.


Hmm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:14 pm to
If laws kept society safe, our prison population wouldn’t be so robust.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14675 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:17 pm to
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If laws kept society safe, our prison population wouldn’t be so robust.

Our prison population wouldn't be so robust if people didn't break the freakin' law. I have little empathy for folks who knowingly break the law and end up in prison.

What, if any, laws are you okay with? What do you think actually deserves prison time... Murder.... that's a given (I hope). What else?
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:18 pm to
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Likewise.


Cool
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37230 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:19 pm to
Nope.

There is no constitutional right to drive anyways.
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