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re: Are Dems ahead of the curve on corporate taxes as UBI becomes necessary due to AI?

Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:33 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:33 am to
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People are saying that if you are under 60 right now, you can expect to potentially live to 120 due to upcoming AI advancements we could never make as humans.


Dude, are you drunk? This is one of the stupidest things i've heard today, only second to

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as UBI becomes necessary due to AI


Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
4257 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:34 am to
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you know what AI can't do? it can't demo my two upstairs bath rooms


Yet. It won't be AI alone though, so you are right about that. Robotics, automation, and AI will do that eventually. There are already robotic/automated roofing systems, brick and block laying systems, and on site 3d building printers. Those are real use cases, not demonstration models. All of it is early stages but cheaper and more efficient and reliable than humans. It will spread to other areas like remodeling eventually.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:35 am to
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My concern at that point is what does it do mentally to an idle society when man is not meant to be idle, but that's a whole other topic.


This is why AI needs to be stopped fully and completely.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182572 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:38 am to
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You've become quite the little socialist.


It's amazing how some people here can't have an open discussion and simply resort to name-calling with no basis for it. You sound like a retarded liberal when you do that BS.

I have never once even ventured near anything worthy of me being called a socialist. In fact, I would say my post history is very clearly contradictory to anything socialist leaning.

Having a discussion that AI is a disruptor that could greatly change societal needs isn't partisan at all.

Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
12457 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:44 am to
Once AI in robotics has advanced enough to replace humans across all industries to keep up production, then why would a bunch of satanic worshipping elites bother with implementing UBI? Seems like they would focus on depopulation to preserve resources. Then keep the remaining population under a surveillance state as basically slaves they can utilize for their demonic obsessions.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:47 am to
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Having a discussion that AI is a disruptor that could greatly change societal needs isn't partisan at all.

Most people are in serious denial on this issue. AI is a big reason I have become so anti-immigration. It is insane to be importing labor at the rate we still are with this just on the horizon. I also think we need to be looking at payroll and income taxes to keep human labor more competitive.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 10:56 am to
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You really don’t see how UBI could become necessary when AI can take jobs way faster than society can create new ones?

Yeah subsidies worked wonders for making higher education more affordable. Let's just hand out wads of cash. What could go wrong?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35959 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:01 am to
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You really don’t see how UBI could become necessary when AI can take jobs way faster than society can create new ones?



Until AI, or some other avenue can fully find UBI, there isn't a conversation to be had about implementing it.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
509 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:02 am to
I was in the same camp a few years ago. I thought AI would take decades to get to the point of doing tasks that would eliminate most jobs. I was wrong and it's already happening. Amazon has eliminated 30,000 jobs since last October. Not because of a lack of revenue but an increase in efficiency.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32765 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:09 am to
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Amazon has eliminated 30,000 jobs since last October. Not because of a lack of revenue but an increase in efficiency.


Automation. Been happening for decades.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:12 am to
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 was in the same camp a few years ago. I thought AI would take decades to get to the point of doing tasks that would eliminate most jobs. I was wrong and it's already happening. Amazon has eliminated 30,000 jobs since last October. Not because of a lack of revenue but an increase in efficiency.

A lot of those tech jobs are being clawed back in the tech sector. People over estimated AI at least in the short term.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
509 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:19 am to
It has indeed, most of the current layoffs are office/corporate jobs. Slightly different from the old days when the person operating a pneumatic screwdriver was easily replaced with a robot and the desk jockeys were safe.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6106 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:22 am to
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I’ve always leaned toward trickle-down economics


Which is a farce
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:31 am to
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So you don't believe in the law of accelerating returns?

Of course I do! But history is filled with those returns being distributed and democratized (where there is freedom and capitalism).

No offense, and it’s not aimed at you, but generally—people have a lot of magical thinking about AI as if it’s some magic wish grantor. A genie of you will. It’s nothing more than a data model. And a pretty flawed one at that.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10018 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:32 am to
UBI should never happen. Look at what humans become if they don’t work. There is always work to be done.
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 11:33 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:33 am to
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here's the thing my man i live in the real world, i don't live in theoryville. in my 64 years i've learned that most of the schit predicted in theoryville turns out to be total bullschit. i'm still waiting for big orbital space stations, a moon base and nehru jackets i was told everybody would be wearing these in the future
As someone with dyslexia, I just want my autocorrect to work, sorta OK. Still waiting.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
509 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:41 am to
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A lot of those tech jobs are being clawed back in the tech sector. People over estimated AI at least in the short term.


I never said it would happen overnight. Fully autonomous taxis were just something to laugh about a few years ago.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2975 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:43 am to
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Which is a farce


trickle down worked great for me, but it was never going to work for losers like you.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6106 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:46 am to
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trickle down worked great for me, but it was never going to work for losers like you.


Ok
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 12:29 pm to
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It's amazing how some people here can't have an open discussion and simply resort to name-calling with no basis for it. You sound like a retarded liberal when you do that BS.

I have never once even ventured near anything worthy of me being called a socialist

Didn't you start this thread with the suggestion that UBI was inevitable? That's a socialist argument. Socialists are real good at leveraging "change" in advancing socialism.
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