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Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:58 am to Chancellor
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Until that law gets before the SCOTUS. Then, see Marbury vs. Madison. Democrats: "SCOTUS, you must rule that you don't have the authority...." SCOTUS: "Nah."
Chancellor, I’m sorry, but you are incorrect here. Take a look at Ex parte McCardle. It’s a case from Reconstruction. In short, this guy McCardle was a newspaper publisher and was against the Reconstruction Acts. He printed inflammatory materials to that affect and was jailed by a military commander. He appealed to SCOTUS saying his rights had been violated. They agreed to hear case and did. Right before they ruled though, Congress removed their rights to be an appellate court for this. By unanimous vote, SCOTUS agreed they no longer had the right to hear this. They did not see it as being in opposition to Marbury vs Madison.
Here is a link to a Wikipedia article on it. It also mentions a couple times where justices have said they would be bound by this. LINK
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:00 am to dafif
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AOC wants to strip
Well that was exciting
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:01 am to Bulldogblitz
This woman gets entirely too much press. Why is the dumbest person in the room given this much ink.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:04 am to LSU2ALA
You would support such an abhorrent action.
Luckily you democrats don’t have the votes for this nonsense.
Luckily you democrats don’t have the votes for this nonsense.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:05 am to patnuh
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My favorite big booty Latina!
For some reason I keep wondering if ole boy was prepared to use that line and was planning to beforehand. Because it sure sounded like it. Either that or he’s really quick on his feet because she happened to show up in that dress accentuating her butt.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:11 am to LSU2ALA
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By unanimous vote, SCOTUS agreed they no longer had the right to hear this. They did not see it as being in opposition to Marbury vs Madison.
You think the current court would feel the same way about a case they already ruled upon?
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:12 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:12 am to roadGator
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You would support such an abhorrent action. Luckily you democrats don’t have the votes for this nonsense.
RG, please tell me where I said I would support such an action. I certainly would not. The question was could it be done legally as people thought she was making stuff up. She was not. Even taking the abortion angle off the table, stripping SCOTUS of review is a very dangerous path to go down. This is something that hasn’t been done in a very long time. It is essentially dead letter law and would be looked at as a cheat code if you will. If they can pass it through the house and Senate, should they put it in there? Yes. Do I want a national abortion law? Not at this time I don’t.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:15 am to BBONDS25
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You think the current court would feel the same way about a case they already ruled upon?
That’s the thing. This would be ruling on a new case. If you say they can’t rule on abortion review and then don’t pass a national law, then the state laws hold. I guess the question is are the conservatives truly textual originalists.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:19 am to dafif
“AOC wants to strip…”
Stopped reading there.
Stopped reading there.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:23 am to dafif
AOC should strip. She should do tours and maybe do porn for awhile. She is doing to be fat in under 5 years so if she is going to do it, might as well do it now.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:28 am to LSU2ALA
Thankfully, any case wherein a State is a party, the Supreme Court has Original Jurisdiction. Thus, a state becomes a party to abortion cases (which normally arises when that state enforces its own law on the issue) is outside Congress’s “narrow” ability to “regulate” the Supreme Court’s Appellate Jurisdiction.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:30 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:28 am to roadGator
quote:RG, certainly you do not equate (1) recognition of authority to perform an act with (2) substantive APPROVAL of that act, do you?
You would support such an abhorrent action.
LSU4ALA and I disagreed strongly on another issue earlier this week, but (s)he (?) is correct here.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:33 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:30 am to BBONDS25
quote:Yes.
You think the current court would feel the same way about a case they already ruled upon?
They have shown a willingness to follow the letter of the Constitution.
That is a Good Thing.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:32 am to dafif
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Ocasio-Cortez demands Pelosi, Schumer strip SCOTUS of jurisdiction on abortion
quote:Interesting.
we urge the exercise of Congress’ constitutional powers under Article III to include language that removes the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction
Of course, such action itself would further vitiate Roe v Wade. There is also nothing (but the fact they don't have the votes) to prevent Congress from passing a Civil Rights Act assuring abortion up to the point rights must be bestowed to the fetus.
But I guess that's what happens when you bring a bartender to a jurisprudence fight.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:35 am to roadGator
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You would support such an abhorrent action. Luckily you democrats don’t have the votes for this nonsense.
Congress is not a superior agency to the courts, nor the president. These idiot democrats watched Star Wars and believe the congress can overrule everything.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:37 am to AggieHank86
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Yes. They have shown a willingness to follow the letter of the Constitution. That is a Good Thing.
Pipe dream. They aren’t overruling a decision they already made because after the ruling was made congress decides to strip their jurisdiction. You think that would apply retroactively? Of course it wouldn’t.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:37 am to interdesting
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Thankfully, any case wherein a State is a party, the Supreme Court has Original Jurisdiction. Thus, a state becomes a party to abortion cases (which normally arises when that state enforces its own law on the issue) is outside Congress’s “narrow” ability to “regulate” the Supreme Court’s Appellate Jurisdiction.
That’s not a bad point; however, SCOTUS, has obviously defined the original jurisdiction quite narrowly.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:38 am to AggieHank86
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LSU4ALA and I disagreed strongly on another issue earlier this week, but (s)he (?) is correct here.
Thanks, and I am a he.
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