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re: Anti AR15 people: How is the AR15 functionally different than any other semiauto rifle?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:00 pm to Centinel
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:00 pm to Centinel
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But you can't prove it can.
He'll show a video of some guy firing one with a bump stock to attempt to prove his point.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:03 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I know exactly what he's going to show. But he said "semi-accurately."
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:09 pm to Centinel
Oh I know. I'm just heading it off before anything happens. The video proves nothing but the ability to maybe hit the broad side of a barn.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:14 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
We have Alabama and Auburn fans agreeing in this thread! For that matter LSU fans as well
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:16 pm to civiltiger07
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We have Alabama and Auburn fans agreeing in this thread! For that matter LSU fans as well
So, what you're saying, is guns are an instrument of peace?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:17 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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So, what you're saying, is guns are an instrument of peace?
Boom!
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:42 pm to Ace Midnight
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How is the AR designed or constructed ANY differently than ANY other semiautomatic rifle ever, ever, that gives it this magical capability?
I have a semi automatic .22 that loads through a cylinder magazine in the the stock. While it can load 14 rounds, reloading is kind of cumbersome. I am able to shoot many more rounds from my AR because reloading is so much easier. The guns are both semiautomatic rifles.
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This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:52 pm to BlackAdam
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I have a semi automatic .22 that loads through a cylinder magazine in the the stock.
Understood. Let me clarify:
How is the AR designed or constructed ANY differently than ANY other box magazine-fed semiautomatic rifle, ever, ever that gives it this magical capability?
Posted on 2/20/18 at 4:19 pm to BlackAdam
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it can load 14 rounds, reloading is kind of cumbersome.
It is possible to make an ammo tube that can dump all 14 into the magazine in a few seconds.
Posted on 2/20/18 at 4:57 pm to Ace Midnight
Look, I'm not for outlawing ar-15s at this point. In fact I have one. I also have a ruger 10/22.
Well, lets leave off exactly what rifles or handguns I have at this point.
The AR that was designed by stoner was brilliant. But he designed it originally for the 7.62 round. It obviously was the AR 10.
But then the switch was made to the .223 or 5.56 mm round. Previously thought of as a varmint round, the round was tame and easier to shoot than the older rounds.
Anyways, not to put people to sleep with a history lesson here, but the military thought the 5.56 round was a great round for the modern soldier. High velocity, fragmentation upon impact, and manageable recoil.
Look at the end of the day few people who actually understand ARs and other semiautomatic weapons really see much difference between the hardware. I understand that the black color of the guns can scare people.
However what the gun lobbyists should perhaps be targeting (excuse the obvious pun) is the actual 5.56 round. Look, we all have 22s. No one uses these in these shootings. They can be made to look just like a AR, but the round is not powerful enough.
Also, we all have shot 30-06s. They pack a punch, but one can not easily fire nearly as many rounds as a 5.56 round.
I think everyone has things wrong here. The 5.56 round is a powerful, low recoil, high velocity round that fragments upon impact. It allows a high rate of accurate fire.
The real discussion should not be banning assault rifles, because we all know assault rifles are banned. And banning whatever someone thinks as an assault rifle is just an exercise in futility and stupidity.
The real question should be should they outlaw the 5.56 or .223 round? Is that actually their endgame?
I would guess that people on this board would disagree with that thought. But, that doesn't outlaw the gun. It outlaws the ammo which make the gun useless.
Is that an end around that might be tried by the anti-gun crew? Is it legal? And should it be tried?
And don't down vote to hell. Legitimate question here.
Well, lets leave off exactly what rifles or handguns I have at this point.
The AR that was designed by stoner was brilliant. But he designed it originally for the 7.62 round. It obviously was the AR 10.
But then the switch was made to the .223 or 5.56 mm round. Previously thought of as a varmint round, the round was tame and easier to shoot than the older rounds.
Anyways, not to put people to sleep with a history lesson here, but the military thought the 5.56 round was a great round for the modern soldier. High velocity, fragmentation upon impact, and manageable recoil.
Look at the end of the day few people who actually understand ARs and other semiautomatic weapons really see much difference between the hardware. I understand that the black color of the guns can scare people.
However what the gun lobbyists should perhaps be targeting (excuse the obvious pun) is the actual 5.56 round. Look, we all have 22s. No one uses these in these shootings. They can be made to look just like a AR, but the round is not powerful enough.
Also, we all have shot 30-06s. They pack a punch, but one can not easily fire nearly as many rounds as a 5.56 round.
I think everyone has things wrong here. The 5.56 round is a powerful, low recoil, high velocity round that fragments upon impact. It allows a high rate of accurate fire.
The real discussion should not be banning assault rifles, because we all know assault rifles are banned. And banning whatever someone thinks as an assault rifle is just an exercise in futility and stupidity.
The real question should be should they outlaw the 5.56 or .223 round? Is that actually their endgame?
I would guess that people on this board would disagree with that thought. But, that doesn't outlaw the gun. It outlaws the ammo which make the gun useless.
Is that an end around that might be tried by the anti-gun crew? Is it legal? And should it be tried?
And don't down vote to hell. Legitimate question here.
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