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re: Anti AR15 people: How is the AR15 functionally different than any other semiauto rifle?

Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:08 am to
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:08 am to
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How many AR’s do you think have been involved in mass shootings?


Maybe read my earlier responses. It would be pointless to ban ARs and not ban other large capacity semi-autos.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:11 am to
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not ban other large capacity semi-autos.


So handguns?

Still waiting for these studies.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:12 am to
Google it. I've read all three gov't done studies following the AWB and multiple other from other countries. They all share the same consensus.

Trying to say that making illegal a semi automatic rifle wouldn't reduce mass casualties is like saying that makinh murder illegal doesn't prevent less murders.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:14 am to
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So handguns?

Still waiting for these studies.


Again, I'm not doing it bc I've posted in the past. Then you put your slant eyed bullshite view on it or all out say fake news because that by far is the most clever term you've heard in your life.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:17 am to
Now if you want to say that you'd prefer to have your security over the chances of some loon getting their hands on weapon to kill you then that is one thing. But anyone saying an all out ban on a certain type of anything in the world doesn't reduce it is a fricking moron. It goes against all common sense.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:21 am to
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But anyone saying an all out ban on a certain type of anything in the world doesn't reduce it is a fricking moron. It goes against all common sense.


So you are saying that if firearms were never invented we would have less firearm deaths. Got it.

It's also common sense that banning firearms would only impact law abiding citizens.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:22 am to
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Trying to say that making illegal a semi automatic rifle wouldn't reduce mass casualties is like saying that makinh murder illegal doesn't prevent less murders.


I gave you a chance to edit this, but what the frick are you saying? making murder illegal doesn't prevent less murders?
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:25 am to
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It's also common sense that banning firearms would ONLY impact law abiding citizens.



No that's is far from common sense since it would impact more than that.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:29 am to
It's pretty clear. If you say that making semi-autos illegal to own wouldn't prevent the occurrence and severity of a mass casualty shooting, then you should hold the same position that making murder illegal does not prevent less murder.

And if you hold that position then you are devowed of all common sense.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22206 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:37 am to
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It's pretty clear. If you say that making semi-autos illegal to own wouldn't prevent the occurrence and severity of a mass casualty shooting, then you should hold the same position that making murder illegal does not prevent less murder. And if you hold that position then you are devowed of all common sense


Really wish we could discuss something that has any chance of happening to help with this issue. Unfortunately, people want to take away the .22 LR with a 17 shot capacity, I’ve used to kill nuisance critters for the last 31 years (got it at 14).
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:44 am to
You are probably right. If the argument isn't about taking all high capacity semi-autos then I don't see the point either. I'm a realist though and know that my chances of being caught in the situation are slim to none either way. But I stopped shooting ARs shortly after the military. It's pointless for the hunting I do and that includes hog hunting. I don't pass up many chances to target shoot however if given the opportunity.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 9:47 am
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:55 am to
I do get that i specifically picked on ARs in the beginning and not all semi-autos. Even those studies showed only a marginal reduction. In the long run other weapons would take it's place. Thus, banning one and not the others is pointless. People hell bent on shooting up others will find a way to do it. But there are a couple of these situations where I truly believe (and it's just my belief) that some shooters specifically wanted to use an AR to kill. Maybe they would have gone with another weapon but I really believe that in their sick and twisted mind, they wanted to specifically use an AR to kill.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 9:58 am to
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making murder illegal does not prevent less murder.


Ah so you think the act of enacting a law to make an act or item Illegal right away reduces it.

Anyone that needs murder to be illegal to stop them from committing it has many more issues than common sense.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:01 am to
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Anyone that needs murder to be illegal to stop them from committing it has many more issues than common sense.




That might be true. But there are people alive on this earth due to murder being illegal. You think we'd have a sex offender registry full of people if murder were legal?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:03 am to
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I do get that i specifically picked on ARs in the beginning and not all semi-autos. In the long run other weapons would take it's place. Thus, banning one and not the others is pointless.


So you are for a ban of all semi-auto firearms?

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Even those studies showed only a marginal reduction.


You continue to talk about these studies, but won't post them. I'm not going search through your post history.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70989 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:07 am to
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Google it. I've read all three gov't done studies following the AWB and multiple other from other countries. They all share the same consensus.




You're not going to post these, are you?
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19053 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:13 am to
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It stands for Automatic Rifle 15.

Not so uninformed one.
AR stands for ArmaLite rifle. ArmaLite is the company that originated the design for the AR style of rifle back in the 1950s.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57128 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 10:16 am to
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It would be pointless to ban ARs and not ban other large capacity semi-autos.



Which, to the anti-gunners, would include guns as benign as the Marlin Model 60 and other similar rifles.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:55 pm to
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It would be pointless to ban ARs and not ban other large capacity semi-autos.


You can literally make any semi-auto a large capacity
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:59 pm to
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If I can prove it can, should that be illegal?


But you can't prove it.

This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 2:01 pm
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