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re: America is resetting back to normal again

Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:11 am to
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:11 am to
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Millennials LOVE nostalgia like no other generation


It’s really Gen Z if you pay attention
Posted by damnstrongfan
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:14 am to
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Rap today sounds nothing like in the past.

Rap is not music, it's noise.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476711 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:15 am to
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Not if you are firmly middle class or lower


Upper middle class, too.

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if you are in the top 5% to about 8%. Hell, there is a huge difference in the 1% to 5%


Well yes but that still leaves 95-99% of the population to discuss.

But the abject poverty that lasted until the 00s or so is simply not nearly as common, especially in urban areas (there will probably always be rural holes of it just due to the nature/culture of those areas and the distrust of the outside). What we consider poor people now can afford "luxury brands" (or what were once luxury brands, hence the quotations).

Is it Loro Piana? No, but that's for the super elite which I wasn't discussing.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59261 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:17 am to

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Nostalgia bait fads that will pass once the novelty wears off


You're catching a lot of flack for this, but history proves it's true. With restaurants like Pizza Hut, McD's, etc. though there are also other reasons.

For Pizza Hut, a lot of their move away from dine-in eating came from their tinkering with their ingredients too much as well as too many franchisees not wanting to put money back into their businesses (not fixing tears in booth seats, for example). Eventually those buildings and their furniture became run-down and that's a quick way to turn customers away.

For McD's, a lot of their move away from the more kid-friendly atmosphere was because it became Hoodrat Central (see: Chuck E. Cheese's) and the play area for kids was hard to keep clean (kids pissing/shitting in the ball pit, for example) and a liability (read: insurance).

People romanticize the memories, forgetting why things changed in the first place. If Pizza Hut can keep from repeating their mistakes, it may see a resurgence of dine-in. How long it lasts is another story.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13654 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:17 am to
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making these buildings idiosyncratic kills the value when the stores close


Bruh, Mexican restaurants can be made out of any building, no matter how they look.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476711 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:21 am to
I will say this about Pizza Hut...growing up it was our weekly tradition on Friday to get 2 larges with a coupon for PH. I haven't had it in probably 20 years until recently, but was absolutely shocked at how it had maintained its pricing. I can only imagine what ingredients they use to keep up with the cost cutting
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13654 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:22 am to
They're bringing back Popeye's buffet locations too.

Although, I think I'm too old for an all you can eat Popeye's buffet now.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1178 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:22 am to
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The same would apply to 80s party rap, 90s east/west coast gangsta rap, G Funk, Nola bounce stuff in the late 90s, Nu metal, then Krunk from ATL in the 00s, etc.

I've already agreed these distinctions existed through the early 2000s. Those genres you listed definitely defined those eras. My point is this has stagnated the last 20 years or so where its all just the relatively similar pop/rap music.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182361 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:27 am to
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Upper middle class, too.



Maybe but upper middle these days is only about $150K income. The lines only recently became blurred from upper middle to pure middle class because of inflation and stagnant wage growth. Before Covid, the differences were more noticeable.

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But the abject poverty that lasted until the 00s or so is simply not nearly as common, especially in urban areas


I bet that can easily be traced back to increases in all forms of welfare and has less to do with overall society advancement.

Now, if you want to discuss why that is happening, that is whole other subject full of CTs.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5553 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:30 am to
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Nostalgia bait fads that will pass once the novelty wears off




An almost certainty. I'm sure most of the people investing in these retro places know that they will have a limited time-frame to recoup their money.

quote:

Millennials LOVE nostalgia like no other generation



I dunno about that. Old people sure seemed to like the 50's
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182361 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:31 am to
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I'm saying pop (the version of that time) has been the dominant force for 60+ years, so it's not shocking that it's dominant today.


Again, pop has always had a place, but in the past, other genres were able to overcome and take hold. Since the early 2000s, everything is pop.

A few small subsets liking EDM or numetal doesn't change what I am pointing out.


This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 9:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476711 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:34 am to
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I've already agreed these distinctions existed through the early 2000s.


That goes through the early 2010s

Then you had party rap after the krunk era.

We are only talking about like 10 years now and that's had several genres in that time.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
2211 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:37 am to
Man, I know exactly the smell of that place when you walk in. The best was a personal pan pizza.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5123 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:37 am to
I believe it would if they incorporated the nostalgia forms of how their food was prepared.

McDonald fries are good, but they ain't 80's good.

Give me beef tallow over vegetable oils anyday
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1178 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:38 am to
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Then you had party rap after the krunk era.

I have no idea what party rap is and I highly doubt too many people would define a time period as the "party rap" era like we would with grunge music or hair metal.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182361 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:41 am to
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I have no idea what party rap is and I highly doubt too many people would define a time period as the "party rap" era like we would with grunge music or hair metal.



Party rap was really only one or two songs. Black Eyed Peas "I Gotta Feeling" and LMFAO - "Party Rock Anthem"

Both of those are pop as hell, too.

It was not a whole movement/era like he thinks it was
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2873 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:44 am to
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Millennials LOVE nostalgia like no other generation


Probably because we grew up in one of the golden ages of our country so our nostalgia is a little better than others.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1842 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:47 am to
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CBS News is state media


This might be true if they always supported the government.

They are a part of the media arm of the Democrat party, which is a subsidiary of the WEF/Globalists.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10665 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:49 am to
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once the novelty wears off


Yours did several years ago.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13479 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:51 am to
You say this:

quote:

Nostalgia bait fads that will pass once the novelty wears off


But then you say this:

quote:

Millennials LOVE nostalgia like no other generation


They contradict each other.

I don't think either statement is true, actually. I've seen too many "No Kings" protest footage with 75 year old men and women dressed like hippies and conducting a "drum circle" to believe that Millennials are the worst. Not to mention, I'm a Gen Xer and nostalgic as hell, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

What I think will most likely happen is that this will appeal to some percentage of customers (not necessarily a majority or even a large minority, but a significant minority) who will not get tired of it, and another group of younger customers who will prefer the style to the more modern styles.

Just like vinyl records. That's exactly what happened with their comeback starting in the mid-2000s.
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