re: America is resetting back to normal again

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Once millennials got old, strung out on Oxy and fent poisoned the Coke supply the era was over

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The recession pop era gave way to the #MeToo girlboss pop era after Obama’s re-election. This was then redirected into the “this is so serious” era of no-fun-allowed media during Trump’s first term.

American Pop music was such a dower downer in this era that it allowed shiny soulless manufactured K-pop to explode in popularity by simply not being depressing. People were so sick of ugly feminists screaming about politics that they embraced a genre of shiny pretty people dancing simply because it was fun and didn’t preach to them.

K-pop is now the mainstream. I am curious to see what replaces it, but I have a feeling it will be something “edgy” that is somewhat reminiscent of late 90’s/early 2000’s nu metal/rap rock.

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I am curious to see what replaces it, but I have a feeling it will be something “edgy” that is somewhat reminiscent of late 90’s/early 2000’s nu metal/rap rock.

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I already informed this thread Nu Metal is coming back

Nostalgic nu metal is back, but I haven’t seen any new acts gain traction doing it yet. However, considering how big emo rap got 10 years ago after starting out fringe on soundcloud, I could see it going from counter culture to mainstream really fast.

I feel like pop culture goes in cycles of fun, angry, sad as well as self-serious vs silly. The millennials in media from MeToo to Covid were completely insane, and the reset is underway. Zoomers (and especially younger zoomers and gen alpha) tend to laugh at the virtue signalers for caring so much about stuff. They just want to have a good time for a change, not that they can afford one.

I see attitudes towards sex have changed drastically too. Millennial women always had this weird complex around sex where it was acceptable to be promiscuous but not to act like you want sex. If someone wanted to show interest in sex, it had to be done covertly, subtly, and veiled in subtext. Open sexual advances, even if mutually desired, were offensive if they were too honest and frank. Women were conditioned to reject being objectified even while desiring to be objectified.

Gen Z doesn’t care about any of that nonsense. They want to be objectified, full stop. They want sex and aren’t ashamed to want it. If someone shows interest in sex, and it’s mutual, they’re not going to act disgusted by them asking for it directly. It’s like this in more ways than just sex. At the same time, they tend to be shy and conflict averse because they lack social interaction. A millennial sends mixed signals to avoid being seen as a slut. A zoomer sends mixed signals because they literally don’t know how to interact with other humans in public, lol.

They’re a lot more frank and to the point about so many things, and I think that is going to be reflected in music going forward.

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There's a reason why all of this change happened. Same thing with the color of cars. This is a consumer driven development across the board.

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I can tell you've never worked in the corporate world. Many changes are simply managers/executives trying to make a mark or justify their salary.

I've seen a company spend a million dollars and revamp the entire documentation process to be ISO certified simply because it was all the rage at the time, and then drop it a year later.

The number of times I've seen a new manager change a working system into something worse is mind-boggling.

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Many changes are simply managers/executives trying to make a mark or justify their salary.

I've seen a company spend a million dollars and revamp the entire documentation process to be ISO certified simply because it was all the rage at the time, and then drop it a year later.

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But these changes weren't "dropped a year later" and have become pervasive industry-wide by all the major actors.

If your hypothesis was correct, this would have ended a long time ago without mass adoption. The opposite occurred.

I'm telling you, a current artist could put out an "album" of early rock 'n roll songs and it would sell like nobody's business.

They would have to be decent songs, of course. Even most young people understood that the 1950's as well as the 1970's-1990's were simply better days all the way around. (The piece of trash Lyndon Johnson ruined the 2nd half of the 1960's so I wouldn't include that half-decade).

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Who pissed in your cheerios? Again?

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But the quality needs to go back up too.

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Crappy AI generated music is the new fad.

Ray Kroc did say he wasn't in the food business inasmuch as he was in the real estate business.