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re: America is facing a threat of biblical proportion: The rise of Christian nationalism

Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68362 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:41 pm to
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is there something wrong with being Christian?



Yes. It means people believe in God and obey him instead of some human rulers. Your kids aren't God's children, they belong to the state.

Any questions? Doesn't matter. Shut up amd do what you are told.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37399 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:42 pm to
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it has never been clearer that Republicans are at war with our fundamental separation of church and state.


As always, they have NO IDEA what this phrase means. No idea.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42156 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:45 pm to
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rise of Christian nationalism
I’m ready
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21957 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:46 pm to
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believe Trump was anointed by God to rule America.



From Christianity’s teaching,all rulers are appointed by God. Even Biden
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8404 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:47 pm to
Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams

I grew up in a Christian America. We felt safe in our own homes. So much so we could leave our front doors unlocked at night without fear of home invasions. Divorce was rare (very rare), and our children respected their elders. Everything worked.

My wife and I gathered our children and congregated with our neighbors at Church on Sunday. Then after Church we strolled over to the Mom & Pop Grocery Store next to the Church to buy groceries. The husband handled the meat counter in the back (his smoked pork-venison sausage was yummy), and the wife and older kids handled the check out lines. We lingered a while to visit with our neighbors. I heard laughter and giggling children.

We mourned with our grieving neighbors when they lost loved ones. The Funeral Home was always full to capacity for wakes.

There was no want, there was no loneliness, life moved slower and we laughed and sometimes we cried. I listened to stories of valor and incredible bravery from our WWII Veterans.

I go back to my old hometown occasionally. Everything on main street is boarded up, including that Mom & Pop Grocery Store. Most of the shop owners have passed on. Fond memories.

Sad.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9235 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:53 pm to
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A growing number of evangelical voters now view the former president as the second coming of Jesus Christ and frame the 2024 election as a battle not just for America’s soul but for the salvation of all mankind.


Oh lawd! Is this fool serious?
There's no way he truly believes his own words.
Here is an excellent description.

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Jefferson wrote in response,

“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

Jefferson, quoting the First Amendment to the Constitution, sought to reassure the Danbury Baptists that what was written was sufficient to protect their rights and that he was a friend to their cause.

Thus, it’s fair to say that Founders like Jefferson meant for some kind of separation between church and state to be present. The government could not establish a state-sponsored religion, but neither could it prohibit others from freely practicing their own religion. However, it’s also fair to say that opponents of religion in the 20th and 21st centuries have misused this phrase to try and separate religion from the public sphere far beyond what was originally intended.



LINK
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111594 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:56 pm to
Christian nationalism simply holds that Christian principles are an underlying and unifying factor for the United States and that the borders of the United States exist for a reason.

That’s enough to be classified as “Christian Nationalism.”

I am, as such, a devout Christian nationalist.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18128 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:01 pm to
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prominent Mississippi Pastor Shane Vaughn


pastor of a small church in Waveland, Mississippi. Population 7,038.

prominent sounds scarier I guess.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61344 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:02 pm to
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Christian nationalism


Either that or get arrested for telling your kid to turn down butt sex from a trans.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5723 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:02 pm to
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I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

Thomas Jefferson wrote this in a response to Danbury Baptist Association. He was the sitting President at the time.

So no, it is not in the Constitution. I think people associate it with the Constitution because Thomas Jefferson wrote the letter.


Not to mention it’s only a separation in one direction, that the state cannot establish or prevent the free exercise thereof. There was no contemplation that the government would not reflect the morals of the Christian people who were creating such government or that those Christian people would not serve in such government and be guided by their faith and according to Biblical principles.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:08 pm to
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America is facing a threat of biblical proportion: The rise of Christian nationalism


quote:

Christian: adjective Relating to or professing Christianity or its teachings.

The main themes that Jesus taught, which Christians later embraced, include: Love God. Love your neighbor as yourself. Forgive others who have wronged you.



Yeah I don't have a problem at all with this. If anything, we need more of it.

Where I do have a problem is with the use of "Nationalism". It should be replaced with "Patriotism", as the majority of people who support this view are simply expressing a positive love of country and wish to end the practice of national-suicide that we see happening now.

Majority of people don't identify with the "nationalist" term being thrown at them. In fact most people aren't even aware that there is a difference between patriotism and nationalism.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111594 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:09 pm to
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Pastor Shane Vaughn


He’s UPC. He would probably spontaneously vomit if he heard himself referred to as Evangelical.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2094 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:09 pm to
Heaven forbid we had a society where you were to mind your own business before you minded your neighbors, respected your parents, respected marriage, the poor and widowed were provided for(not the able bodied). Liars, thieves and crooks were punished and ostrasized, bad behavior was shamed, and children were protected from the grooming of sexual devients
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111594 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:10 pm to
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Majority of people don't identify with the "nationalist" term being thrown at them. In fact most people aren't even aware that there is a difference between patriotism and nationalism.


There’s nothing inherently wrong with “nationalism.” It’s just the opposite of globalism.

It’s hilarious to watch people with Ukrainian flag PFPs rage against the dangers of nationalism.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2616 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:11 pm to
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Opinion by Max Burns, opinion contributor • The Hill
Burns is a veteran Democratic strategist and founder of Third Degree Strategies.


Printed as fact by MSN. The same people that told you Chinamen eating bats were the root cause of Covid.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12247 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:12 pm to
I demand EVERY politician no matter the Party they represent be a Nationalist meaning they will put the needs of Americans over the needs of the rest of the World’s citizens.

I also expect the leaders of all the other Nations to put the needs of their citizens first.

Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
5008 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:13 pm to
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is there something wrong with believing we should put our own country first?


Other boards I read, this theme seems pretty common. And it comes from outsiders, non-Americans. Basically wanting US resources worn thin so that other nations can benefit and US becomes weaker. It's fricking stupid.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47976 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:16 pm to
They’re just throwing leftist buzzwords together at this point. Next week it’ll be “white, neo-Christian nationalism”
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87504 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:19 pm to
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Max Burns is a Democratic strategist and the founder of Third Degree Strategies, a progressive communications firm. His writing has appeared in outlets including the New York Daily News, Business Insider, NBC News and Buzzfeed. Follow him on Twitter @TheMaxBurns


quote:

Max is an award-winning advocacy communicator with 15 years of experience helping businesses, nonrprofit organizations and advocacy groups achieve their messaging goals.

Max built a record of success as Communications Director for the international advocacy group Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights, and drove media around some of Change.org’s largest political petitions as U.S. Communications Manager. He also managed a portfolio of trade group and private sector clients as a Senior Associate at The Glover Park Group from 2012 to 2015. Prior to that, Max served as a Public Policy Communications specialist in Facebook’s Washington, D.C. office, and as a Press Fellow to U.S. Congressman André Carson (D-IN).

In 2019, Max was named a Public Relations Society of America Exceptional Communicator Under 35 for his work to end immigrant family separation and mass incarceration as Head of Communications for Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights. Max holds a BA in Government and International Relations from George Mason University and an MA in Media and Public Affairs from The George Washington University.


Posted by Elihu
Member since Dec 2020
847 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:26 pm to


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