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re: Amazon Music Documentary Says Country Music is Black Music

Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:56 am to
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:56 am to
12% of the population.

Responsible for 100% of the music.

Got it.

Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9753 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:57 am to
Rascal Flats


My guess is that they want to tap that money being spent on country music and give it to the black pioneers that live in Compton
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:58 am to
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Pretty much everyone acknowledges the Banjo has African origins.

Obvious European influences but it’s not just European folk music.


All popular music is based on European standards.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:59 am to
The country music label didn't exist until the 50s which shared with western music. Before that it was known as hill music as that is where it came from. Then Nashville wanted to be mainstream with the music of the big cities and wanted to get rid of the hillbilly look. So they wanted the artists to wear cowboy hats and boots which have a Spanish origin. Then it really took off especially with Roy Rogers the singing cowboy in Hollywood.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:04 am to
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dchog
congradschulashuns for addressing almost 20% of this music
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4230 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:07 am to
Some of it has black influence without question.

The English lyrics of rap, the technology of the cars, cellphones, electric grid, airplanes, etc. that black people use are all primarily influenced by Anglo folks.

Who gives a frick? I don’t feel the need to walk up and randomly point it out or make a documentary about it.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3176 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:07 am to
Not a lot of AA in the Appalachians.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
10012 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:12 am to
Don't know about all that, but it's true that all musicians have respected and listened to each others Genre throughout time. If you're in that industry you know what's going on around you. It's also true that the banjo originated in Africa.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79429 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:12 am to
I don’t agree that Country music is black in origin.

But pretending there are no black influences is pretty dumb.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18523 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:13 am to
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So, every music is black music because of its roots regardless of who actually made the music or listened to the music?


That doesn't matter either. Robert Johnson sold his sold to the devil, but the devil didn't invent those chord progressions for him. They had been around forever. I get sick of hearing that crap like blues was just some magic thing they invented. The chord progressions had been around and people have been singing about being sad for thousands of years.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:15 am to
The proto "American" musical form was an amalgam of Irish/Scottish/English folk music mixed with Christian hymns and African rhythms. The more formally trained folks (black and white) drifted into Jazz as it developed. The more organic musical styles variously evolved into gospel, blues, bluegrass, country and ultimately those fused into rock and roll. American music is composed of music heavily of the European and African Continents, less so from other sources

Period.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:17 am to
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All popular music is based on European standards.

yep, the spanish 'guitar' took a lot of forms through time - and to be fair - was probably more correctly attributed to harp like instruments dating back to the Sumerian and the 'sea people' before them.

The guitar form is usually credited to the Spanish and definitely came along during the 400 years period of North American exploration by the Europeans. Violins were always there during that time.

The banjo is a tribute to the ingenuity of need, as are the scrub board, the washtub bass, and all sorts of cigar box instruments.

I find the efforts to amplify those kinds of instruments later on as bigger and bigger venues were experienced very interesting... dobro comes to mind

ALL guitars are fascinating to me - as is the market for them. Many instruments come to be worth up to hundreds of thousands or even millions for what was purchased for not very much. Heck, I have a fairly recent Gibson 6 string that has caught fire in the Japanese marketplace.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27189 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:19 am to
I try to remember the Ken Burns country music. But it starts becoming more interesting with the western swing and the Bakersfield sound.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9917 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:21 am to
Good Lord, will this nonsense ever stop….
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:21 am to
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Not a lot of AA in the Appalachians.

was my unmentioned point exactly - but I dont care to get into the nuance battles of talking about music any more than dancing about architecture.

Its music. The central substance about what that actually means or implies belittles the miraculous nature of it.

Where does a song come from?

How did the vast array of signatures and scales come to be? and why?

What underlying meaning is impactful? Why?

....
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9753 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:23 am to
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But pretending there are no black influences is pretty dumb.



Is anybody really pretending there is no influence? How about we all influence one another, it’s called civilization. Does the left go on and on about the influence of different cuisines? The fuk does the left feel the need to divide and categorize everyfreakinThing?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117581 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:24 am to
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A lot of the origins of country music were irish influenced.


And the steel guitar they added after WWII was invented by a Hawaiian guy.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26494 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:25 am to
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he world would be a futuristic scientific utopia.


Long live Wakanda!
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10401 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:26 am to
Charlie Pride is on line 1.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79429 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:27 am to
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Is anybody really pretending there is no influence?


Yes. In this thread.
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