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re: Amazon Music Documentary Says Country Music is Black Music

Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:33 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:33 am to
Too big to fail
Posted by navy
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:34 am to
Tryin’ like the devil to find the Lord
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:34 am to
That means black people are responsible for Rascal Flats.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:34 am to
“Elvis was a star off the backs of black people because his rock was blues based!”

“P Diddy is a star because he would play white artists’ music and talk over them.”

“Oh… that was different!0
Posted by tigafan4life
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:35 am to
Can we just say black people invented everything? And whites stole it cuz we want to be them but we hate them? Just say it already.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:35 am to
Now that is just a low blow.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:35 am to
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A lot of the origins of country music were irish influenced.

The Irish, Scottish, English, and from the French later (Acadian) folk music meandered and weathered through a few centuries in North America. These led to generations of rustic country and what is described as country music today.

The influence of Nigerians, Kenyans, Congolese, Dahomey (now Benin), Ghana and the rest of the enslavers of other blacks from Africa whose descendants wound up in North America had no input to the music known as 'country' for those 400 years. none.

Anyone purporting that such a thing is in any way truthful is a merchant in lies.

Of course, there is a massive amount of such misinformed/disinformed nonsense making its rounds among free Americans these days.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 10:38 am
Posted by TigersnJeeps
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:36 am to
We went to the Country Music Museum in Nashville when Auburn played in the Music City bowl.

IIRC They did have a section on the influence of blacks/black music on country but it was one just of many influences.

Sounds like Amazon is over-stating it a wee bit lol
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:40 am to
It was called hill music in the 20s and the first band was the Carter family.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:41 am to
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IIRC They did have a section on the influence of blacks/black music on country but it was one just of many influences.

Come to think of it, the current 'country' music industry would be wanting to suggest such influence.

As could be expected of thousands of country music professional masked Karens and Chads living in the McMansions of Franklin, TN today.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 10:45 am
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:42 am to
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The influence of Nigerians, Kenyans, Congolese, Dahomey (now Benin), Ghana and the rest of the enslavers of other blacks from Africa whose descendants wound up in North America had no input to the music known as 'country' for those 400 years. none.


What about the blacks they enslaved and then white people purchased and transported to American?

Feels like you conveniently ignored that group of people. The Africans actually IN America.

But country music today has rock and roll influences, gospel influences, rock and roll influences all of which involves black singers and musicians.

Pretty much everyone acknowledges the Banjo has African origins.

Obvious European influences but it’s not just European folk music.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:44 am to
The Gaslighting is reaching to Olympian Heights.

One day, schoolchildren will be taught in US Govt schools that Gregorian Chant is Black Music.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:44 am to
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think about Charley Pride!


My Dad always told me that if he had Charley's Pride and Johnny's Cash, he'd be doin' all right.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:46 am to
quote:

“Elvis was a star off the backs of black people because his rock was blues based!”



This was an almost direct quote from Ray Charles.

I lost a lot of respect for him over that statement.
Posted by Beauw
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:47 am to
Pretty soon they’ll tell us Vikings were black.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:47 am to
Yeah, definitely not a clear continuation of Scots/Irish musical tradition. It's so weird how the Scots/Irish moved to the hollows of Kentucky and the hills of Tennessee, stopped playing the music that was their birthright, and waited for African music to come along to reignite their interest. Those music-less years in between were awful quiet.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:48 am to
Comedian Larry Miller used to have a great joke along these lines. He said, "My grandfather was a musician. He was half black and half white. He played the blues on a banjo."

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:54 am to
quote:

country music today
derived through a lineage of the rails, jigs, and folk styles and ballads of Appalachia and the Carolina piedmont settled by anglosphere immigrants... which did NOT stop as described above.

Heck, it was an official part of rudimentary education 'system's through the whole time those education efforts existed. It was 'music' taught along with 'dance' from the same lineage.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 11:02 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The influence of Nigerians, Kenyans, Congolese, Dahomey (now Benin), Ghana and the rest of the enslavers of other blacks from Africa whose descendants wound up in North America had no input to the music known as 'country' for those 400 years. none.


Perhaps largely true, however, someone else in this thread pointed out that the Banjo does seem to have evolved from instruments brought here from Africa by African slaves.

So it is an interesting topic to ponder.

I agree with you that it's foolishly reductionist for anyone to state that American Country Music is Black Music.
Posted by theCrusher
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:56 am to
When you have to claim everything, it’s a sure sign you’ve contributed nothing.
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