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re: Amazon Music Documentary Says Country Music is Black Music

Posted on 4/8/22 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 6:18 pm to
I watched a Johnny Cash reaction video from people who were Irish. One of them said that type of music sounded familiar to what they hear in Ireland.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:29 pm to
influence at about o.1%
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:35 pm to
Where are the black influences?
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:44 pm to
They are jumping through so many hoops trying to make this a one-way street and not acknowledge the obvious point that blues is an off-shoot of country. Country evolved primarily from traditional Scotch-Irish music. When Afro-Carribbean influences intersected with those old ballads and laments the blues was born. It would be a lot more interesting to look for the actual points of divergence between blues and country than to engage in silly pandering. Listen to Lightnin' Hopkins or Ledbelly or Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown. Country influenced them, and they influenced country. Especially Ledbelly.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:49 pm to
Actually, black American culture is the leftovers of the worst parts of the old southern white culture.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:53 pm to
Eat unhealthy, drink too much, smoke too much, way too quick to fight; we do have a lot in common.
Posted by gobnugget
If you
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:55 pm to
Are you calling my ancestors the n word?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Are you calling my ancestors the n word?

Maybe. I still have distant relatives that never evolved. Dopers, drunks, barely literate.....and take pride in it.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Where are the black influences?
Blacks have always influenced country music.

Southern Culture is essentially British crossed w/Black. Even the Appalachian societies were not totally isolated -- they just had less constant contact w/blacks, and thus preserved British musical styles (and for that matter, language) in a form closer to that of the homeland.

There are country records of the '20s that are virtually indistinguishable from blues records. Some Jimmie Rodgers tracks are only recognizably country due to his yodeling.

The black influence on rockabilly should be obvious.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:31 pm to
Ok but the question is, do they own the title of country music?
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 10:07 pm to
pandering is gross but if it will nudge culcha in a direction that favors God and country then pander away.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 10:12 pm
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