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re: After $100M Cornyn mistake, stop fighting the base and start passing Trump's agena

Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:38 am to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29636 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:38 am to
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Yeah, but neither are the senators supposed to do whatever the hell they want. They are supposed to be somewhat responsive to the voters, and that’s exactly what elections are for. The voters made it very clear in this primary election that they want to go in a different direction. Your post makes it seem like US senators should be like the House of Lords.



They are supposed to be something akin to the House of the Lords. It’s why they have 6 year terms and weren’t directly elected until 1913.

The filibuster which Trump wants to end is a sort of accidental feature of the system which serves an important role especially in today’s day and age. If the republicans end it, next time democrats win all 3 branches, it’s fricking over.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2018
880 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:25 am to
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Because the majority of America isn't the Trump Base. Most Americans prefer that our resources and young men and women are not deployed to the Gulf to fight Netanyahu's Zionist apocalyptic wars, or pay escalating prices for gas and for groceries, merchandise and services, or be assailed with the constant litany of lies from OMB. That is not who we are as Americans


I think you are reading the populace wrong or you are blinded by your hatred of Trump to the point that you are a deranged idiot.



Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20600 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:30 am to
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The Senators are NOT supposed to be like European Members of Parliament who just mindlessly vote


Voting for the agenda of the people that put you in power is not a mindless vote dummy.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
10054 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:43 am to
It’s really just that simple isn’t it?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57091 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:45 am to
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They are supposed to be something akin to the House of the Lords.

“Something akin” is doing a lot of work in that sentence. The Lords don’t have to face an election - not even indirectly as you pointed out that the US senators used to. The Lords are appointed by the monarch and most are hereditary. So the Lords are akin to our senators in the sense that they are all bipeds that are meant to be deliberative and not prone to sudden democratic whims, but they are very different from the US senate both before and after the means of ascent to the senate was changed.

I’ll add that the Lords have virtually no power compared to the US senate.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 9:47 am
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:56 am to
Turtle and the establishment continues to burn through money only supporting the establishment candidates so they will do the establishments bidding, instead of supporting the constituents preferred candidates that should execute the will of voters.
2024 election turtle wasted tons of election $ on candidates that couldn't beat the dem machine or voter fraud.

Now Thune and team won't protect the voters via the save act and are getting their butts kicked via grassroots turn out.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27489 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:09 am to
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If there are any lessons to be learned,


It is that the dipshits blowing R money on a candidate they knew was going to lose was brilliant. They wasted money so that they could win D seats elsewhere.

People yall need to learn what is really going on.

THERE IS A REASON
- so called republicans always wuss out.
- republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Stop believing that are dumber than bricks.
Stop believing it is bad luck.
Stop believing they had good intentions.

They are doing what they are doing with a goal in mind and they are successful at it.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20489 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:41 am to
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Voting for the agenda of the people that put you in power is not a mindless vote dummy


That’s what all of the TDS crew fail to grasp.

This isn’t about Trump. The voters put Trump in office to do certain things.

The voters expect Congress and the Senate to do certain things.

If these Congressmen don’t do what is expected they will get primaried where it’s possible. It’s about the will of the voters, not what Trump does or doesn’t want.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4232 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:55 am to
If Your kind of democrats in Texas hadn’t blew their primary vote making sure you got the queerest candidate possible, that vote would have been available to ensure uniparty member Cornyn would continue. A sincere thank you to your fellow wokesters for putting someone that your contrived polling that your going to shower us with down the stretch won’t even be able to save.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61756 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:11 am to
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this is just silly. The Senators are NOT supposed to be like European Members of Parliament who just mindlessly vote "in line with leadership".


This article gets it, and you obviously don’t. No, they aren’t supposed to mindlessly vote in line with leadership. They are supposed to vote in line with the people who elected them. They clearly aren’t doing it because they are so hypnotized by the establishment line that they’ve followed for so long.

The Republican Party can’t seem to grasp this, and incumbents will continue to lose their seats until they figure it out.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36314 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:25 am to
Parties should stay out of the primaries
Posted by Nelson Biederman IV
New York, NY
Member since Apr 2014
638 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:36 am to
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I respect the Washington Times and agree or disagree, their editorials are usually good (even if I disagree I can respect their viewpoint), but this is just silly. The Senators are NOT supposed to be like European Members of Parliament who just mindlessly vote "in line with leadership". That completely knocks the famous "checks and balances" role they play and does not make them a co-equal branch of government. The "just shuf your mouths and do what your betters at the White House tell you" has never been a part of the US system. That is the system in the House of Commons in the UK, all the other European parliaments, etc.


Did you read the article? It literally asserts that GOP voters want someone to do “their bidding”, as was originally intended. You fools can’t comprehend that a large portion of the population wants what Trump wants. The election wasn’t stolen. He’s there to do the people’s bidding. Regardless of what any online echo chamber, media outlet, or pollster tells you; this is what people want. What’s been happening in these elections is a reflection of that and is functioning as things were intended to.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70442 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:47 am to
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Maybe it is time to follow the money regarding the insanity of contributing so much to Cornyn's campaign. Why else would they spend so much?


This is why if louisiana electsJulia letlow it will be a disaster
Posted by HoustonTigerNKaty
Member since Aug 2018
963 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:50 am to
It’s been true since Tea Party. Dems love the conservative base than the GOPe.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61756 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:52 am to
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This is why if louisiana electsJulia letlow it will be a disaster


I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a disaster. I do believe that it would be a mistake.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
10495 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 12:03 pm to
It should be blatantly obvious by now the establishment GOP leadership shares minimal common cause with its party’s own voting base.

Which begs the question: Of what use are they? That they aren’t officially Democrats? Yeah, great.

Hopefully the needed purge continues and Thune himself won’t escape it.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43301 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 12:13 pm to
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It should be blatantly obvious by now the establishment GOP leadership shares minimal common cause with its party’s own voting base.


I know that many people don’t like Bannon, but he’s been right about this for a while now.

He’s been saying the establishment GOPe is about money and that’s it. I used to think they were in some sort of secret agreement, but they will stab each other in the back in a heartbeat. Therefore, they are worse than Dems.

The Dems are predictable. You don’t know what assholes like Thune will do and who he will cut a deal with to get it done.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
8108 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 12:34 pm to
Unfortunately john thune dosent give a shite about the will of the people he is a swamp monster and he needs to be removed from his position
Posted by MustWin
Member since Jul 2009
885 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 12:39 pm to
I wonder if Eurocrat knows just how stupid he is or is it just the TDS infection.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42944 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:12 pm to
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Now, it’s time for senators to do the people’s bidding — or they, too, will face ouster.


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