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re: Affirmative Action

Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113706 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:51 pm to
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What job is it you want you can't get because a black man got it?


Hell, I can name about 5. But the biggest was admission to Ivy League schools. If I were black I would have gotten a full ride to Harvard. Had to settle for a full ride to Centenary.

Not bad because today it's worth about 30K per year.

LINK

Note the new front page... lots of blacks, women. One token white guy. If you walked on the campus today it's all ugly white girls...mostly LUGS.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
104031 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Is this guy always this annoying?


No, he gets much worse quite often.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
62294 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Thomas Sowell on Affirmative Action:
LINK
Two of my intellectual heroes in that video, Thomas Sowell and William F. Buckley.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30380 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

What job is it you want you can't get because a black man got it?


Irrelevant. AA is offensive to those it "supports", or at least it should be.

The narrative of the laws and government programs in this country is that minorities are inept, ignorant and incapable of becoming successful on their own. In the case of AA, it's as blatant as it gets.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Irrelevant
because it is better worried about in the abstract than in the specific.

White people are obsessed with people getting something they don't deserve, which is really ironic.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8607 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Tigah in the ATL

You must come in here knowing full well you're going to say something stupid every day and you just don't stop. Almost admirable. Run for office.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65142 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:52 pm to
I have no idea why I'm routinely ignored on the poli board. I'm wildly popular elsewhere.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35833 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:32 pm to
Affirmative Action = Reparations for slavery = "spread the wealth around". It will only go away when the Latinos become a strong voting block and get pissed at carrying the water for underperforming Blacks. Whites don't get to make the call; they're tainted.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135701 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:34 pm to
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White people are obsessed with people getting something they don't deserve, which is really ironic.


So white people always get stuff they don't deserve?
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
104031 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:34 pm to
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I have no idea why I'm routinely ignored on the poli board. I'm wildly popular elsewhere.


I hadn't noticed it, so I went ahead and liked your earlier post Broke. You're a generally thoughtful poster elsewhere, so I'll try to make a point not to ignore you in the future.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Another name for government sanctioned racism. It's an anachronism and it needs to be chucked once and for all onto the ash heap of history.


Best post in this thread.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
49414 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Anybody care to opine?


Your great-great grandchildren, if they choose to remain in this country, will live with Affirmative Action.

It will never go away. Never.

I'm not saying it's good or bad, I'm just saying that it is permanent.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:05 pm to
AA is an assault on excellence more than anything else. If enough tokens can't qualify just lower the standards, been happening for decades.

The country has become less competitive primarily because of tokenism. How's the token president working out? He never would have sniffed the office if he wasn't black.

AA doesn't affect me because I have never met a black person or woman who could do my job but it still pisses me off.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:05 pm to
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Affirmative Action = Reparations for slavery = "spread the wealth around".


You've got to be kidding.

The daughters of the rich regardless of the color of their skin benefit the most from AA and the sons of the poor whites benefit the least.

Even though I got a BS in Mathematics in 1968, I was forced to go into business for myself because of AA.

This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:14 pm to
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I saw a segment on MSNBC about modern day affirmative action and it got me thinking. I'm of the strong opinion that my generation, "generation X" should be the last generation to contend with Affirmative Action
My children(ages 4&6) will be long dead and blacks will STILL be demanding affirmative action and white guilt liberals will happily portray anyone against it as racist. You can take that shite to the bank.

You might think that as blacks rise as a percentage of the nation's population that wouldn't be the case but actually, the more votes they represent, the greater effort the left will go to make sure that they maintain that 95% voting block.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30380 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

because it is better worried about in the abstract than in the specific.

White people are obsessed with people getting something they don't deserve, which is really ironic.


Irony is having the system geared towards your culture as a whole to succeed while dragging everyone else down yet your culture still lags behind.

Irony is having everything geared your way by way of denied racism, yet claiming everyone else but yourself is racist.

AA is racist in and of itself. Period.

quote:

White people are obsessed with people getting something they don't deserve


No, I'm pissed off about the double standards for minority groups in this country that have an effect on everyone (including minorities)

Sorry I'm not your typical American voter who will eat up any heart string tugging bs you can conjure up. The fact that you actually allow the media and this administration to brainwash you into thinking everyone is a victim of something, speaks volumes about you.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 7:18 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10669 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

What does that even mean?

I prefer to be in environments and settings (educational, clinical, etc) where I am around people with unique backgrounds, upbringings and stories, as opposed to a room full of people who think and act and grew up just like me. I know many here probably disagree, but thats fine.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10669 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:39 pm to
Just out of curiosity, when you guys see/meet/hear about a successful black person (ivy league acceptances, elite grad school, etc) do you automatically assume that without AA he/she would not be in the same position due to merit alone? IE this person took the spot of a more qualified individual?
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:41 pm to
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Just out of curiosity, when you guys see/meet/hear about a successful black person (ivy league acceptances, elite grad school, etc) do you automatically assume that without AA he/she would not be in the same position due to merit alone? IE this person took the spot of a more qualified individual?
Do I assume that that to be fact? Of course not. Do I recognize that the chance that it's true is not insignificant? Of course not.

By the way. You don't have to be white to think this. I've heard more than one black say such things about successful blacks. I'd say blacks are pretty much just as likely to assume affirmative action played a role as whites are.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10669 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Do I recognize that the chance that it's true is not insignificant? Of course not.

I think I lost you in all the negatives here.
quote:

I'd say blacks are pretty much just as likely to assume affirmative action played a role as whites are.

This has not been my experience at all. Quite the contrary, all my black friends are also frustrated when ppl automatically think "AA" when they attain more and more success.
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