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re: Academic says we are past the tipping point. Civil wars in the west coming

Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:34 pm to
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What in your life is so horrible that you would want to take up arms against your fellow Americans?


Defense from violent leftists.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10321 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:35 pm to
Apparently Western leaders thought Western people would just sit back and let their replacement happen without a whimper.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89083 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Let me ask. What in your life is so horrible that you would want to take up arms against your fellow Americans?


Nothing.

So don’t start none, won’t be none. It’s that simple.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11143 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:36 pm to
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What’s so bad?


You people
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55605 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:27 pm to
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Wars, debt, inflation, hunger, chaos.

Wars? They had to fight wars and be ravaged by them. That's a far cry from any war we've had in decades. We are insulated from wars.

Chaos? No, chaos was the result of those other things and a lack of consistency from a very weak king.

Inflation? It's about 2.3%

Debt? Yep.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
22031 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Professor of War in the Modern World, David Betz of King’s College London, has claimed that many European countries now exhibit signs of being in a pre-civil war state. According to his research, there is a statistically significant chance of a war breaking out in the next five years in a Western state, and given Europe’s interconnected nature, it could spark similar conflicts in neighbouring nations.


5 years will be too late for many of them.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18049 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:02 pm to
And you the kind that would cry when you got slapped in the face
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:04 pm to
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“I just want to say dear elites


No bias detected
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5331 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Wars? They had to fight wars and be ravaged by them. That's a far cry from any war we've had in decades. We are insulated from wars.


Not insulated at all. We've been fighting and paying for wars for decades, and piling up the debt. We've also been piling up debt from our welfare state, bureaucratic bloat, waste, corruption. You don't have lose wars to pay the ultimate cost if they come one after another and are accompanied by multiple other grave financial errors.

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Inflation? It's about 2.3%
We've been downward "adjusting" the inflation data for decades; hedonics, substitution, owner's equivalent rent, etc. This is the game govts play when they don't want to admit they're abusing their currency. But, I understand. Everyone wants to see the whites of hyperinflation's eyes before admitting inflation is a big problem. We would've seen it already, but we discovered we could offshore production that became too expensive at home. That's not a solution, it's a patch and it's coming to an end because the rest of the world can no longer ignore our out of control debt. This recent run-in with double digit inflation wasn't an aberration, it was a precursor of something much worse.

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Chaos? No, chaos was the result of those other things and a lack of consistency from a very weak king.


The list I used was a sequence, with chaos being the end game. It's where we're headed because of debt. Government debt becomes a currency problem when it's unpayable and growing faster than the economy. US Federal debt alone has grown four fold faster than the economy since 1980, and speeding up. That's a currency problem and it's too big to avoid.

So yeah we're headed for chaos. If you prefer to blame what comes next on "a lack of consistency from a very weak king", doesn't change the outcome. It started a long time ago and there is zero support for hard medicine.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2662 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:14 pm to
My age, can relate.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16091 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:18 pm to
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We are insulated from wars.


We are not insulated from a war on our homeland that is already here. We are insulated from a foreign military naval invasion.

We are absolutely not invincible and many have no idea how fragile everything is.

People are the most divided they have ever been in my life, I’m 38.

There was not a mass global color revolution that was 20 years into works like it is is modern society. This wasn’t going on in the 60’s during the civil rights movement.

50% of Americans don’t pay taxes and live off of government benefits.

60 years ago social media didn’t exist.

60 years ago propaganda did exist but it was so overwhelming 24 hrs a day and so far gone into total corruption as media is now.

We are 36 trillion in debt. That has consequences.

We are COMPLETELY reliant on our grid while simultaneously being the most venerable we have ever been by far in the history of our country.

China owns 1000x more farmland in America than it did 60 years ago.

All secondary education wasn’t captured by globalist marxist ideology 60 years ago.

We are taxed BY FAR more than Americans ever have been and for the first time ever their is confirmation on what we’ve always expected, but massive fraud and abuse funded off of the backs of only half the country.

There are many different problems and levers in play that didn’t exist during the 60’s
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61043 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Let me ask. What in your life is so horrible that you would want to take up arms against your fellow Americans?


I could be mistaken because I only read the quoted excerpts, but he really seems to be talking about Europe. I don’t think the US is quite at that level…yet.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91563 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Academic says
who the frick cares?
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
1163 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:36 pm to
[quote]We're nowhere close. The crap that was going on from 1969 -74 was way worse. What's going on now is for weekend hobbiests.[/quote

This
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60100 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Civil wars in the west coming


Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:41 pm to
Lol... It doesn't take a "London academic " to make this call, me a few others around here have been saying the same.

Its really not hard to figure out if a person can overcome their own fear and bias. It will happen.
The true spirit that has made America great can't be overcome by Marxist politicians or their lies and propaganda. They will have to take it the same way it was earned, bullets and blood.
Thank you Jesus for the 2A.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55605 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:55 pm to
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We've been downward "adjusting" the inflation data for decades; hedonics, substitution, owner's equivalent rent, etc. This is the game govts play when they don't want to admit they're abusing their currency. But, I understand. Everyone wants to see the whites of hyperinflation's eyes before admitting inflation is a big problem. We would've seen it already, but we discovered we could offshore production that became too expensive at home. That's not a solution, it's a patch and it's coming to an end because the rest of the world can no longer ignore our out of control debt. This recent run-in with double digit inflation wasn't an aberration, it was a precursor of something much worse.

I agree with this paragraph. I really liked the evocative writing in…
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Everyone wants to see the whites of hyperinflation's eyes before admitting inflation is a big problem.


I think you diagnose the situation we are in very well…it’s just nothing like the situation that led to the French Revolution. That was a citizenry without the right to vote, with no rights, subject to the whims of the aristocracy and teetering on starvation. There are some similarities in the indebtedness and the coming inflation, but ot enough to use the French Revolution as any kind of guide to the current situation.

Although it’s a very imperfect example the German experience in the 1930s is a better example.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37614 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:11 pm to
I hear this bullshite lament and in particular the Chinese owning farm land thing. Big fricking shite. We live here, the farm land is here.....China is 6000 miles away. If push comes to shove we take it.

Stop this whining. We have problems, not catastrophes
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:13 pm to
The US should have Balkanized when it had the chance.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139057 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:16 pm to
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What’s so bad?
Is your wealth being redistributed while your civil rights are encroached, and while you are yet scorned further for your achievements by NapoleonPigWannabes claiming others are due your "fair share"? If not, you'd do well registering the concerns of those who are.
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