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re: A story of what suicidal empathy gets you
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:00 am to 10thyrsr
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:00 am to 10thyrsr
quote:My take on Christianity is based on what the Scriptures teach, not what man wants it to be. God uses the weak to glorify Himself.
I am being snarky because I think your take on Christianity is certain to extinguish the religion.
Christianity thrives when Christian soldiers conquer.
Preaching weakness as some sort of inherent quality of Christianity is wrong.
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:03 am to FooManChoo
Didn’t Erika Kirk do this with her husband’s killer?
If you forgive, you forgive.
If you forgive, you forgive.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:10 am to SallysHuman
quote:Yes, and yet we still have an obligation to love them.
Jesus also said to shake the dust from your feet when you are rejected.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:11 am to FooManChoo
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Yes, and yet we still have an obligation to love them.
Love =/= suicidal empathy
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:26 am to ZIGG
It's pathetic and if some animals killed me I'd hope my relatives would be more pissed than this other cheek turning pussy arse father
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:45 am to FooManChoo
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This life isn’t all there is. God will judge the wicked and reward those who are faithful to Him.
You are exactly right.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:51 am to ZIGG
quote:Now that's some serious irony.
in the Fulbright Program... went to South Africa to help anti-apartheid activism;
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:00 pm to FooManChoo
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Christians are to love everyone, including their enemies. We are to forgive enemies if they repent, and pray for them regardless. Empathy is a good thing. Jesus has it for us and we are to have it for other human beings, image-bearers of God.
Forgiveness and empathy are good things, but repentance is continuously downplayed. Repentance is an action that for Christians lasts a lifetime. If a true follower of Christ committed murder, how would they repent?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:11 pm to FooManChoo
Doesn’t mean I got to hire them -
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:34 pm to FooManChoo
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Instead of trying to find fault with the notion of only taking what one already had on hand, you need to turn from your sins against your creator.
You need to respond to my last reply to your baseless assertion that “airete” doesn’t mean “take” but means something else despite every English Bible translation translating the Greek into “take” in Luke 9:3. It’s been a few weeks since you gave up.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:41 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:My thoughts... not much a father... he has failed. Even IF, as a Christian, you can forgive them [I probably could not], you don't do this.
Her father is a piece of garbage. What a sad, pathetic, weak excuse of a man.
Reminds me of the woman who tried to save the convicted murderer released from prison, who ended up killing her as well.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 5:07 pm to SallysHuman
quote:I think that phrase is getting thrown around a lot, but being willing to accept negative temporal consequences for obedience to God is not suicidal empathy. Jesus gave His life for those whom He loved, but He wasn’t “suicidal”.
Love =/= suicidal empathy
Posted on 1/27/26 at 5:17 pm to HurricaneTiger
quote:They would repent as the Apostle Paul did. They would confess their sin to God and commit to new obedience to Him by faith.
Forgiveness and empathy are good things, but repentance is continuously downplayed. Repentance is an action that for Christians lasts a lifetime. If a true follower of Christ committed murder, how would they repent?
It is the same for all repentance of sin.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 5:19 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:I already pointed out that the word is understood based on the context, including how the author uses it.
You need to respond to my last reply to your baseless assertion that “airete” doesn’t mean “take” but means something else despite every English Bible translation translating the Greek into “take” in Luke 9:3. It’s been a few weeks since you gave up.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:47 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
I already pointed out that the word is understood based on the context, including how the author uses it
I pointed out that you are full of shite, and that every English biblical translation team disagrees with you. KJV, ESV, NRSV, NASB, NIV, NET, etc etc etc - all those committees of scholars (probably every single one a Christian) all chose the best English word to use based on the Greek word and the context, and they chose “take”.
Truly pitiful. You hate what the Bible literally says and you reject it. You’re a hypocrite.
Luke and Mark contradict. Once you accept that, that’s the first step in actually being able to learn something worthwhile.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:02 am to FooManChoo
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Christians are to love everyone, including their enemies. We are to forgive enemies if they repent, and pray for them regardless.
I love everyone, and at the same time, if you hurt someone I love, I will punish you. Not out of hatred, but because the universe demands it.
Ok, probably also out of hatred, but I will forgive after punishment has been meted out. At some point.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:02 am to ZIGG
BURN THE COAL PAY THE TOLL
Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:35 am to ZIGG
quote:
Truth and Reconciliation Commission,
Obama tried hard to bring this to a fundamentally transformed USA.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:38 am to FooManChoo
quote:
My take on Christianity is based on what the Scriptures teach, not what man wants it to be. God uses the weak to glorify Himself.
You are so full of shite.
There’s that hypocrisy I always bring up.
The scriptures teach (Mark 6:8) that Jesus told his disciples to take nothing except a staff. The scriptures (Luke 9:3) teach that Jesus told his disciples not to take a staff. You want them to say something different. You reject what the scriptures state in favor of some conjured excuses that aren’t in evidence. You put your own traditions, your dogmas, on a higher priority than the scriptures. You can you are a sola scriptura guy, but that’s a lie, because you value dogmas and traditions over the scriptures.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:02 am to ZIGG
I think the motivation for forgiveness is very important. Christlike forgiveness, I can get behind. Especially for someone who is truly remorseful and sorry for what they have done.
This suicidal empathy is another thing. For them, forgiveness is rooted not in Christ but self promotion and self righteousness. If you choose to allow people to forgo punishments for their crimes and they harm your neighbor or just the act of continuing to do this emboldens others to harm your neighbor, you are guilty of those crimes against your neighbor.
You essentially are saying that the self benefit you get from showing "empathy" is worth your neighbor suffering
This suicidal empathy is another thing. For them, forgiveness is rooted not in Christ but self promotion and self righteousness. If you choose to allow people to forgo punishments for their crimes and they harm your neighbor or just the act of continuing to do this emboldens others to harm your neighbor, you are guilty of those crimes against your neighbor.
You essentially are saying that the self benefit you get from showing "empathy" is worth your neighbor suffering
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