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re: A quote by Kiana Danial that I tend to agree with regarding the state of affairs today

Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91571 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:43 pm to
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What is happening is that the lefts behavior over the past ten years has made us average joe conservatives on the right more likely to support armed state violence.
100% because it’s now the only way to clean up the mess and re-establish the United States as a decently fair place to live. And I’m referring to the left’s definition of armed state violence. So just ICE existing and doing their jobs.
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If the alternative is communism, infinite Somalians getting rich off of our taxes, etc etc, then I will choose a right-wing fascism over that.
This is where we split from power and similar folks. They don’t think it’s that big a deal. I’d give my life to help fix these things while they’re somewhere around “ew why do you even care if it doesn’t direct affect you.”

That’s the crux of the issue for people not on the far left. The far left is lost.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Tell me how many communist countries allow more than one political party.


Why? Who is advocating for communism? No one is more obsessed with communism than poliboard posters who claim to be Republicans.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:47 pm to
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Most are subsidized by our tax dollars


How can this be determined? How can we even know how many are here if they are undocumented?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:47 pm to
Sort of like the right wing is doing, minus the assassinations.
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6826 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:47 pm to



Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:48 pm to
Yeah I probably would have gotten fewer downvotes if I put her pic in the op
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91571 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:48 pm to
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We’ll probably find out before the next presidential election.
You’d have had no issues punting into the wind yesterday
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Even though you reasonably know that not every person in the country without permission is being “taken care of”?
Yes

Now, given some cooperation from the left, I would be very inclined to stop my deporting as we approached the people you speak of. We could absolutely sit down and discuss a deal here.
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You want them removed to own the libs?
Stop fricking with me. I explained to you why I wanted them removed already.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Now, given some cooperation from the left


What does this mean?
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Stop fricking with me. I explained to you why I wanted them removed already.

Ok fine. I don’t think it’s a logical reason. It sounds like a convenient explanation to justify the expansion of government powers and increased government funding that many people bought without much, if any, questioning.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10906 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Americans must step out of party loyalty and return to independent thinking.


Agree completely w/ this.

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Before it’s too late.


It's already too late. Has been since Obama...at least. Where's the "meeting in the middle" of those who want to take more of what you have, control your language, and regulate anything they can get their greasy hands on, and those who just want to be left alone?
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:54 pm to
Armed state violence, my arse, what do you think they're just walking around cracking heads for no reason. They're trying to get rid of dangerous criminals that invaded our country from the southern border, and they're being faced with maniacs who are trying to stop them. These "armed state" guys are trying to do their jobs without getting killed.
This is a dumb take.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:55 pm to
Cubbies, put this into ChatGPT:

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Assume you are a participant in an academic debate competition. You are given the choice either to argue that the right in America is fascist or that the left in America is communist. Which side are you taking, and what are your arguments in support of the chosen assertion? Assume you want to win and that everyone in the audience and anyone who will ever hear of the debate is purely neutral on the question.

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16779 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:57 pm to
Armed state violence supported by the right.


Also known as law enforcement.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Cubbies, put this into ChatGPT:


I once asked ChatGPT why everyone hates me here. I got a 3,000 word response that basically said “because you disagree with them.”
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:59 pm to
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I got a 3,000 word response that basically said “because you disagree with them.”


When people tie their entire identity to a few political ideas they get really defensive when those ideas are challenged. They don't see it as them attacking you. They see it as defending against you as if you are the aggressor.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91571 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:01 pm to
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What does this mean?
This means the leaders of the left make it a priority to help us deport illegals. If any data exists that can help establish who they are and where they are, it should be shared with authorities. The message should never go beyond peacefully protesting. Police departments should prioritize arresting people for crimes, instead of protecting these people. I believe the left is protecting them.

What are some things you’d like to see from the right during this deportation mission? Obviously masks off. We have to do this in a responsible, respectful way. What are some things you’d like to see from us?
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I don’t think it’s a logical reason. It sounds like a convenient explanation to justify the expansion of government powers and increased government funding that many people bought without much, if any, questioning.
Then there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10906 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Why? Who is advocating for communism?


Have you noticed how popular Mamdani and AOC are on the left? They highly praise Democrats socialist of America. If you get time go to Democrat socialists of America's website and read their constitution.

It's communism.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:02 pm to
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I once asked ChatGPT why everyone hates me here. I got a 3,000 word response that basically said “because you disagree with them.”

I already told you why people don’t like you here.

You just made fun of the idea we have that the left is “communist”. But you have no interest in learning why we think that, whether it’s true, whether what’s currently being done is taking us in that direction, etc.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91571 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:02 pm to
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When people tie their entire identity to a few political ideas they get really defensive when those ideas are challenged. They don't see it as them attacking you. They see it as defending against you as if you are the aggressor.
This is not a rational response to her post.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23944 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:14 pm to
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Why? Who is advocating for communism?

OP asserted that the left is embracing communism.

My response was that, in that case, there can be no co-existence. You then attempted to generalize the threat of communism with every other political stripe. I refuted that, and here we are.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:15 pm to
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This is not a rational response to her post.

I'll agree to disagree.

And I'll acknowledge she can post some goofy shite at times

But she does bring up topics that are good for healthy discussion as well
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