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re: A different motive for statue removal
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:58 am to MastrShake
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:58 am to MastrShake
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but the very "foundation" and "cornerstone" of the confederate government was white supremacy. ignoring that is the revisionist history people here claim to hate.
You're a one trick pony.
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:13 pm to bamafan1001
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Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?
I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.
Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.
I agree with you. What I really think, is they think they want to see Martial law implemented, or something to that extreme as to wreck the social fabriic of this nation.
Let's face the facts, the progressives have 99% control of what and how this nation gets its information, 100% of the democratic house and senate(there are no moderates), plus the RINO's. They seek socialism, a world where government controls all facets of business and the peoples life. Not to mention the GOPE's. Their goal is to create a unified world where corporations control all facets of government and the peoples life.
This be damned: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:22 pm to asurob1
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You mean like you guys attacked Obama like trying to claim he was born in Kenya or was a muslim or...well you get the idea.
He was born in Kenya and he is a muslim
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:31 pm to bamafan1001
Since some folks caved, the progs have their in and will continue to push for anything that destroys history. They are trying to create their own perverted progressive "utopia" where all voices are opposition are silenced.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:48 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:the truth is not a trick. its more than a little weird that you think of it that way.
You're a one trick pony.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:57 pm to VOR
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Yeah, keep thinking that.
If the OP is wrong, why, then, has statuegate become an issue in 2017, rather than in 2008?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:44 pm to EKG
Exactly. This isnt a politcal move..its punishment for the perception that WE are the reasons for the Obama era failures and WE elected a man that is rolling back their agenda.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:48 pm to bamafan1001
Until I read your thread, I was genuinely perplexed regarding the sudden furor over the statues.
It makes sense now.
Pretty insightful of you.
It makes sense now.
Pretty insightful of you.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 4:54 pm to EKG
It literally just occured to me today. It doesnt make any logical sense for this movement. It wont gain them one single voter. This is revenge
Posted on 8/19/17 at 4:59 pm to cwill
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I think it's a fairly easy argument that the removal of the statues in Nola was a politically rational move.
What did it politically accomplish?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 5:31 pm to asurob1
If Trump is a Nazi for not calling out Nazis, is Obama an Islamic terrorist for not calling out Islamic terrorists?
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:27 pm to bamafan1001
If Confederate statues are being torn down because of the Confederacy's link to slavery, why aren't Planned Parenthood clinics being torn down because of their plan to kill all Black people? “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” Margaret Sanger(Founder of Planned Parenthood) —Letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble on Dec., 10, 1939
I'll tell you why, the tearing down of the statues has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with promoting a divisive narrative for political purposes.
I'll tell you why, the tearing down of the statues has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with promoting a divisive narrative for political purposes.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:47 pm to bamafan1001
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I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.
Stand back from the situation and look at the big picture. The Progressives lost their elected power when Hillary went down and worse yet a non-conventional president was elected. The Progressive playbook is to create anarchy any way they can. The issue is not the issue. The issue is Power. The goal is to take down the govt until they can insert themselves into power. They do not give a hoot about statues - they just want to start an arguement that keeps them relevant.
Notice, that since this issue has come up you have not heard the word "Russia" once. You have not heard about border security, or LGBT rights, etc.
Can you imagine where we would be if one of those wimp Republican challengers had won the White House (probably would not have beaten Hillary anyway). I cannot imagine Rubio, Bush, or Kasich trying to deal with these people. Cruz maybe...
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:57 pm to bamafan1001
Spot on analysis, the timing is the tell
No matter how they try to divert the arguement between good and evil, or political motivations, it still remains that they didn't do it during The last 8 years, but are doing it now to get back at Trump voters, if someone dies, so be it, the ends always justify the means, and they feel justified because TRUMP
No matter how they try to divert the arguement between good and evil, or political motivations, it still remains that they didn't do it during The last 8 years, but are doing it now to get back at Trump voters, if someone dies, so be it, the ends always justify the means, and they feel justified because TRUMP
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:07 pm to ruzil
Speak English.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:06 pm to bamafan1001
quote:
Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?
Righting a wrong.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:10 pm to bamafan1001
It's nothing more than "pay back".
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:11 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:If this were the case, they'd be out fighting real racism, rather than arguing about inanimate objects no one even bothered to notice until they drew attention to them.
Righting a wrong.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:18 pm to MichaelP DS80
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If Confederate statues are being torn down because of the Confederacy's link to slavery
Of course. All the while The Union's link to slavery gets a free pass. MmmmHmmm...got it.
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