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A different motive for statue removal
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:51 am
Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?
I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.
Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.
I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.
Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:55 am
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:53 am to bamafan1001
Well it's that damn George Soros, haven't you heard?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:53 am to bamafan1001
a similar thought crossed my mind
it's like a chance to kill conservative whites all over again
it's like a chance to kill conservative whites all over again
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:58 am to TotesMcGotes
Indeed Soros would never be one to use his fortune to fan flames of anger and frustration...
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:02 am to bamafan1001
Very true. I heard he was responsible for Hillary's Parkinson's, too.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:03 am to bamafan1001
Libtards are trying to prove that Trump's supporters really are a basket full of deplorables. It's just that simple.
Step one, attack enough heritage statues to trigger actual hate groups.
Two, DNC politicians then have the "alt-right" morons forced from their protest area (the park) into the streets where the alt-left morons are. Alt-left morons start the violence and the alt-right morons respond.
Step three, liberal biased MSM declares violence due to Right, and attack the right and Trump 24/7! DNC and GOPe quickly join in.
Step four, rinse and repeat!
Step one, attack enough heritage statues to trigger actual hate groups.
Two, DNC politicians then have the "alt-right" morons forced from their protest area (the park) into the streets where the alt-left morons are. Alt-left morons start the violence and the alt-right morons respond.
Step three, liberal biased MSM declares violence due to Right, and attack the right and Trump 24/7! DNC and GOPe quickly join in.
Step four, rinse and repeat!
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:04 am to TotesMcGotes
Soros has been linked to several protest groups. Don't act like it's a conspiracy theory.
As to the OP, it's just a stepping stone to removing the Founders and all of American history. The sooner people realize that progressive = marxist, the better off we'll all be.
As to the OP, it's just a stepping stone to removing the Founders and all of American history. The sooner people realize that progressive = marxist, the better off we'll all be.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:06 am to blueboy
Soros is responsible for everything bad. Except for the things that the media is responsible for. Maybe Soros is responsible for the media being responsible for everything? I'm not sure, just workshopping here.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:07 am to bamafan1001
It is north/urban Vs south/rural all over again.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:11 am to bamafan1001
Funny thing though, it was democrats that put those statues up to begin with. It sure as hell wasnt republicans who carved Stone Mountain.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:17 am to bamafan1001
quote:
Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?
I think it's a fairly easy argument that the removal of the statues in Nola was a politically rational move.
I don't know the political/racial demographics of Charlottesville.
That being said, from the standpoint of avoiding creating rallying points for the worst among us, politicians should avoid removal based on what's best for the community for now. The political climate is too charged for removal IMV.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:21 am to cwill
We can agree to disagree about New Orleans. I highly doubt blacks thought twice about statues and I doubtbit garnered any more support for the mayor and city council
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:22 am to bamafan1001
quote:
Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.
You mean like you guys attacked Obama like trying to claim he was born in Kenya or was a muslim or...well you get the idea.
Progressives don't oppose you because you didn't like 44...they oppose you because they disagree with you.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:23 am to bamafan1001
quote:
We can agree to disagree about New Orleans.
What was the political cost?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:24 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:Maybe your attempt to discredit facts through exaggeration would be more effective if anyone, anywhere had ever said this.
Soros is responsible for everything bad
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:24 am to bamafan1001
quote:
I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment.
Yeah, keep thinking that.
apples and oranges.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:29 am to bamafan1001
Not long ago, the Atlantic had a series of articles online about manufacturing facilities opening in the south. Many of the comments basically said that the South was fighting the Civil War all over again by becoming hostile to unions with the intent of making the South more business friendly at the North's expense.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:29 am to bamafan1001
quote:no one thinks EVERYONE in the south at the time was racist, but the very "foundation" and "cornerstone" of the confederate government was white supremacy. ignoring that is the revisionist history people here claim to hate.
When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists...
quote:jesus christ, dont be such a drama queen. stop looking for any possible microaggression to play up your victimhood.
...they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:36 am to VOR
Is that gibberish supposed to be an argument?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:49 am to asurob1
quote:That is why the statues all came down during the Obama administration. Right?
Progressives don't oppose you because you didn't like 44...they oppose you because they disagree with you.
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