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re: 73% of Student Loan Forgiveness Recipients Plan to Spend More on Dining Out, Travel
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:13 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:13 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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So pumping money into their local economies and wherever they travel instead of paying loans off to the government?
I thought we were all for the economy having more money flow and not the government getting more.
If I'm paying for it I think I would rather be the one to enjoy it versus a free loader.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:16 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Of course they would. Because it's just another poor decision in the long line of poor decisions that led them to be under the "crushing student loan debt."
When my wife and I got out of grad school we had a tremendous amount of student loan debt. We had good jobs, but certainly nothing close to making 6 figure salaries a year. We also had no children. After a year we bought our first home. Certainly we could have received a loan for a much bigger/higher priced loan. However, we didn't want to overburden ourselves with a higher level of unnecessary debt than we already had. Fortunately we progressed in our careers and our salaries increased. We easily could have increased our standard of living along with it and splurged. Instead, we used that extra money to throw at the student loan debt to get it paid ASAP.
Our family grew, but remained in that starter home while many of our peers, who had lower household incomes, bought bigger and better homes, cars, vacations, etc. Many who had equal student loans. There was no jealousy on our part. We knew we wanted to pay off the loans first, so we did what we had to do before increasing the expense of our lifestyle.
The majority of the deadbeats who are in line to get debt "forgiveness" are the ones who weren't planning to pay them off in the first place. They aren't really sacrificing anything with student loan debt. They are just going to shift that money from one poor decision to another and soon end up in another form of debt (likely credit card or a ridiculous car note or mortgage).
I know it sounds elitist to say, but most "poor" people in the US are such because they are terrible decision makers. I had a former employee who was constantly getting kicked out of apartments and having her utilities turned off because she wouldn't pay her bills. One year she did a really great job on a profitable project, so we gave her a nice mid-year bonus (that no one else in the office got) as a sign of gratitude. That extra money could have helped pay off some outstanding debt, or set her up to not have to worry about paying her monthly rent for a while, or any number of responsible uses. Instead, she thought a better use of the funds would be to take several members of her extended family out to a large dinner at an expensive steakhouse and buy new clothes. The money was gone in a week. Predictably, two months later she was whining and crying about how she needed more money because her cable was shut off and she was about to be evicted from her apartment. She was a brokedick walking around with a Luis Vutton purse who couldn't pay her rent at dumpy apartment.
When my wife and I got out of grad school we had a tremendous amount of student loan debt. We had good jobs, but certainly nothing close to making 6 figure salaries a year. We also had no children. After a year we bought our first home. Certainly we could have received a loan for a much bigger/higher priced loan. However, we didn't want to overburden ourselves with a higher level of unnecessary debt than we already had. Fortunately we progressed in our careers and our salaries increased. We easily could have increased our standard of living along with it and splurged. Instead, we used that extra money to throw at the student loan debt to get it paid ASAP.
Our family grew, but remained in that starter home while many of our peers, who had lower household incomes, bought bigger and better homes, cars, vacations, etc. Many who had equal student loans. There was no jealousy on our part. We knew we wanted to pay off the loans first, so we did what we had to do before increasing the expense of our lifestyle.
The majority of the deadbeats who are in line to get debt "forgiveness" are the ones who weren't planning to pay them off in the first place. They aren't really sacrificing anything with student loan debt. They are just going to shift that money from one poor decision to another and soon end up in another form of debt (likely credit card or a ridiculous car note or mortgage).
I know it sounds elitist to say, but most "poor" people in the US are such because they are terrible decision makers. I had a former employee who was constantly getting kicked out of apartments and having her utilities turned off because she wouldn't pay her bills. One year she did a really great job on a profitable project, so we gave her a nice mid-year bonus (that no one else in the office got) as a sign of gratitude. That extra money could have helped pay off some outstanding debt, or set her up to not have to worry about paying her monthly rent for a while, or any number of responsible uses. Instead, she thought a better use of the funds would be to take several members of her extended family out to a large dinner at an expensive steakhouse and buy new clothes. The money was gone in a week. Predictably, two months later she was whining and crying about how she needed more money because her cable was shut off and she was about to be evicted from her apartment. She was a brokedick walking around with a Luis Vutton purse who couldn't pay her rent at dumpy apartment.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:17 pm to Friscodog
quote:Yep. I’m not paying government loans on those though
Do you have a car loan, or a mortgage, or pay rent?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:26 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
and we thought welfare recipients getting cell phones was insane..........yet here are!
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:29 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:Someone has to pay off those loans. So its either raising taxes on the rest of us, which means less money for us to spend in the economy…..or government just keeps printing money and more inflation
So pumping money into their local economies and wherever they travel instead of paying loans off to the government?
I thought we were all for the economy having more money flow and not the government getting more.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:29 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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So if they aren’t paying the government the money in loans and they spend it at a local restaurant, they aren’t helping the economy?
If they're poor enough to have their loans forgiven maybe they should be cooking at home and not taking vacations on the rest of us.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Well that’s a idiotic take. If they paid back government then the people would have less taxes to pay. Therefore all people would have more money to spend in local establishments
Posted on 11/10/22 at 3:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Yep. I’m not paying government loans on those though
So help me here.. honestly.. I don't understand.. Why is this loan agreement you signed any different than those others?
I took out government parent loans for my kids to attend college, I paid one off 40K and will pay the other off 30K. You think I don't have an obligation to pay those loans back?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:04 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Seriously, is this a problem? If they don't have to pay the student loan back, they will spend the money on something else.
This is the most ignorant and ridiculous fake "gotcha" I think I've ever read.
This is the most ignorant and ridiculous fake "gotcha" I think I've ever read.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:05 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
When do us people that deserve free shite get free shite?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:19 pm to Bard
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"Don't worry, we can maintain our lifestyle by running up our credit cards while we wait this out. What's the worst that could happen?"
A government sponsored credit card bailout program.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:22 pm to TBoy
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Seriously, is this a problem? If they don't have to pay the student loan back, they will spend the money on something else.
This is the most ignorant and ridiculous fake "gotcha" I think I've ever read.
I'll ask you the same question I asked another poster: what's the most direct method to devalue a fiat currency?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:31 pm to chity
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A government sponsored credit card bailout program.
If things get bad enough that a lot of people begin just walking the hell away from their credit card debt, Visa, MasterCard, Discover, etc are going to go begging to the federal government for a bailout and they would likely get it.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:45 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Posted by Henry Jones Jr on 11/10/22 at 2:46 pm to WPBTiger
So pumping money into their local economies and wherever they travel instead of paying loans off to the government?
I thought we were all for the economy having more money flow and not the government getting more.
You big dummy! Pumping printed mone into the economy is what caused caused inflation! Elizabeth! I'm coming 5o meet you!
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:46 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I feel like an idiot for working and paying for college as I took classes.
I got my advanced work done at night while working 45-50 hours a week.
At least my degrees allow me to be productive and earn a good salary - rather than being a Starbucks employee.
I got my advanced work done at night while working 45-50 hours a week.
At least my degrees allow me to be productive and earn a good salary - rather than being a Starbucks employee.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:46 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
So, they will actually stimulate the economy....
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:49 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
My son’s ex-GF ran up $40,000-$50,000 student loan debt to get a useless social services degree at FSU and an online masters degree. She’d blow her loans on clothes, tattoos, and partying, and would be asking roommates for money within days of receiving her loans.
Joe should make these collegiate recidivists give an accounting for how the loan money was spent before forgiving the loans.
Joe should make these collegiate recidivists give an accounting for how the loan money was spent before forgiving the loans.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:54 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
And…wife and I sacrificed to pay for our son’s education at UF and he graduated debt-free with a civil engineering degree, got a great job three days after he graduated. We never took out a student loan, so this loan forgiveness is bullshite as far as I’m concerned.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:57 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Well, they spent the loan on partying, so...
Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:01 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Reminds me of how the Katrina relief money was spent. Designer handbags, shoes, etc. Phipps Plaza in ATL was overrun in the luxury stores.
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