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re: 54% of the cell phones at Kamala's Nevada rally were also at her Arizona rally
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:23 am to TheGoodNews
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:23 am to TheGoodNews
Thx GoodNews
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:26 am to Penrod
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Im joking, just joking Are you???? Am I????

Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:28 am to BigPerm30
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Anyone can pay for it. It’s essentially sold to anyone under the guise of advertising information.
The city manager for our over-the-mountain suburb here in Bham has this data. What they can tell you is amazing and scary at the same time. If I didn't need a smartphone for work, I'd get rid of it. Seriously.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:34 am to Boss13
It's just geo-location and it happens in advertisement. I can tell when someone was in a building and a Hooters ad was on Atmosphere tv and how long it took for them to walk into one of our stores. The average is 3 days
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:35 am to anc
She’ll still get 90 million votes
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:36 am to supadave3
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This can’t be legal and very likely completely made up nonsense
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Currently, no federal standard exists for regulating the collection, use, or disclosure of geofence technology data in the US. However, in 2023, five states – Utah, Washington, Nevada, New York, and Connecticut – enacted geofence technology laws.
LINK
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:39 am to auggie
quote:Where the hell did that come from? It makes no sense given what I posted.
But you are on board with the same type of tracking used to convict Jan6 people?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:43 am to Boss13
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This seems like nonsense. I'm not saying her support isn't contrived, but who would have access to the cellphone tracking database?
100% legit to get that data and 100% legal as long as no personal information is shared. Your cell phone pings all the time and you’re being tracked everywhere.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:46 am to TheGoodNews
I hope I'm not coming off adversarial and that I'm making sense. Geofencing isn't illegal. It's a cornerstone of modern advertising, smart homes, etc.
What is illegal (and extremely difficult, if not impossible, on a technical level) is pulling IP addresses from all endpoints within a particular geolocation, agnostic of vendor and on multiple networks. The fact that 54% of the results appear to be static and seen in a different geolocation days earlier is just further in the realm of *extremely* unlikely results (to put it mildly). That is the information they're claiming to have.
What is illegal (and extremely difficult, if not impossible, on a technical level) is pulling IP addresses from all endpoints within a particular geolocation, agnostic of vendor and on multiple networks. The fact that 54% of the results appear to be static and seen in a different geolocation days earlier is just further in the realm of *extremely* unlikely results (to put it mildly). That is the information they're claiming to have.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 11:50 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:11 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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agree, but the 4thA only restricts governmental actions.
I know for a fact that the government also buys the data, globally including US. It's literally how they tracked down all of the Jan 6th folks.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:23 pm to anc
LOLOLOL.... Bet Nathan Wade and Fani Willis were there.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:27 pm to dalefla
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I know for a fact that the government also buys the data, globally including US. It's literally how they tracked down all of the Jan 6th folks.
This is true. The way they get around this (and potentially other things that might be useful for what Segura is claiming, like cell tower data) is by specifically stating that it's not an invasion of privacy if they aren't actively looking at it. They ingest a TON of privacy-invading data but get around the associated violations by claiming they only use it in service of targeted investigations rather than actively scanning it all (i.e., if no one has looked at it, then one's privacy hasn't been violated).. Again, that's the claim, but they store/have access to a lot of information if they happen to "need" it.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:39 pm to Boss13
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This seems like nonsense. I'm not saying her support isn't contrived, but who would have access to the cellphone tracking database? That seems like a huge legal issue.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:47 pm to SirWinston
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That guy is a sack of shite. Please stop posting stuff from Tony Seruga
A coupled of weeks ago Tony made me lose 2 hours of sleep while scrolling through X right before bedtime when I stumbled upon his post that said Rikers Island was prepping the prison for Trump and his Secret Service.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 1:07 pm to TheGoodNews
It's even more than cellphones. If your car has OnStar, FordPass, BMW Assist, etc... that data gets linked. Same with SiriusXM. You use your cellphone #, and/or email to sign up. We live in a surveillance state and we've all agreed to it for convenience.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 1:19 pm to dalefla
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It's even more than cellphones. If your car has OnStar, FordPass, BMW Assist, etc... that data gets linked. Same with SiriusXM. You use your cellphone #, and/or email to sign up. We live in a surveillance state and we've all agreed to it for convenience.
These all have IPs, yes, but again, from a cybersecurity perspective, the necessary tech to do what Segura is claiming evades the top cybersecurity firms in the country and would require extralegal tools and enormous processing power that might only be available to alphabet agencies. The analysis and validation of this data would take an army of people and an untold amount of time (and then when you get into creating live searchable data lakes that involve cell towers/ISPs/wireless networks for *multiple* small geographic regions around the US like he claims to have you're in a whole different territory that would involve an endless source of funding). Turning it into anything actionable on the scale of Seruga's claims would require a superhuman level of logistical efficiency. I try not to dismiss anything outright but it's *highly* dubious and, if he did have backend access to the ISPs/cell towers/etc. they'd lock him out in an instant if he was just publishing this kind of information because that stuff usually requires a warrant or some kind of authorization contract that states the intent of your usage.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 1:23 pm to Boss13
You have no idea the technology that is out there to track cell phones, do you? PR and marketing firms have been doing this for years. 
Posted on 9/19/24 at 1:38 pm to LegalEazyE
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ou have no idea the technology that is out there to track cell phones, do you? PR and marketing firms have been doing this for years.
Not trying to escalate and I've tried to leave an opening for any possibility. If you have a technical explanation for how the intel in the OP might be collected and allowed to be disseminated on X, I will gladly listen. I've tried to point out the differences between the scope of the data Segura claims to have (as well as its validity) and the nature in which advertising data is collected (in addition to how geofencing works). I looked over Segura's explanation over how he got what he claims to have and that's what I'm primarily responding to.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 1:43 pm to anc
I wouldn’t hang my hat on that supposed fact. People travel to rallies
For both candidates. Tracking cell phones is a desperate ploy.
For both candidates. Tracking cell phones is a desperate ploy.
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