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If you are wounding deer with any modern deer cartridge and ammo that’s a you problem. Either you can’t shoot, you take bad shots or you’re one of those guys that’s dusts off the ole .300 win mag once a year and goes hunting. It’s not the arrow, it’s the indian. End Thread
I don't wound or miss. Put 'em instantly on the ground with the patented neck shot. Never had to track one.
It’s about bullet placement but also bullet selection.Guy I was in club with was shooting Nosler Ballistic Tips ,he was upset that he wasn’t getting exit wounds or blood trails.Couple deer he shot he was lucky to find.I explained it was a fragile bullet,he needed to change to Nosler Partitions.He did and was happy with the results.
Another guy brought his young son to shoot his first deer.Had the kid armed with .223 with full metal jacketed bullets.Kid made a perfect shot on a doe but it ran off with no blood trail.Bunch of us went looking and found it but it was luck.The doe ran into a pine plantation that had been burned so there was no underbrush,we spotted the white belly.
His rationale for using full metal jacket was because that was what the military used.
Another guy brought his young son to shoot his first deer.Had the kid armed with .223 with full metal jacketed bullets.Kid made a perfect shot on a doe but it ran off with no blood trail.Bunch of us went looking and found it but it was luck.The doe ran into a pine plantation that had been burned so there was no underbrush,we spotted the white belly.
His rationale for using full metal jacket was because that was what the military used.
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by AlxTgr 
on 1/11/21 at 1:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
on 1/11/21 at 1:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorItquote:Care to explain what point you're trying to make here?
IMO .270 can be almost too much of a meat grenade. I've seen a deer shot with one before that went in and out right behind the shoulder, and all of the guts were busted. Both sides were full of jello meat. It was horrible. It was top 5 most jacked up deer I've ever cleaned and I it was only shot once. Crazy stuff happens sometimes.
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by SportTiger1 on 1/11/21 at 3:05 pm to LSUA 75
on 1/11/21 at 3:05 pm to LSUA 75quote:
His rationale for using full metal jacket was because that was what the military used.
Oh my
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Ballistic Tips
I despise
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First, why do you need a .30-06 for neck shots? Just get a lighter caliber.
Forgot about this post.
Yea i've never killed a deer with a 30-06. Almost every one i've killed was with a .243. Some .308 and 7 mag mixed in.
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I’m not too proud to admit that I don’t always make a perfect shot.I shoot for double lungs behind the shoulder.I’ve heard too many stories about deer that dropped like rocks and then got up and ran off.Undoubtedly their neck bone was grazed which temporarily paralyzed them.Double lungs they might run a little ways but when they go down they don’t get back up.
I've not once heard of a neck shot running anywhere.
Now the 2 deer i had to track this year? Both double lung. Damn near lost the first one if it wasn't for 3 other guys helping me track it.
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re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by nerd guy on 1/11/21 at 4:20 pm to SportTiger1
on 1/11/21 at 4:20 pm to SportTiger1quote:
I despise
Why despise ballistic tip?
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by saintsfan1977 on 1/11/21 at 4:52 pm to nerd guy
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I've not once heard of a neck shot running anywhere.
If the deer is broadside with its head straight out and you shoot the lower part of the neck, that deer will run. Same if you shot very high on the neck and only hitting muscle. Hitting the bone is a DRT.
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by Icansee4miles on 1/13/21 at 3:06 pm to saintsfan1977
on 1/13/21 at 3:06 pm to saintsfan1977Bump for a related question. When I never found any blood from the buck I swore I whacked a few weeks ago, I started reading up on the bullets I’ve used for years. Hornady 140 Grain SST in .270 Winchester. A lot of discussion in hunting forums about them blowing up a deer’s insides (can confirm), making jelly out of the opposite front shoulder (yep), but a lot of guys saying the bullet didn’t exit or for whatever reason, little to no blood trail. I’ve only neck shot does for years and the last buck i shot a few years ago in the body did go for a pretty long run considering his guts were scrambled. Anyone have experience with this bullet? It’s accurate as Hell in my gun and the doe I shot that same weekend fell over like a tree where she stood. 
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67 on 1/13/21 at 3:13 pm to OldSouth
Dead middle shoulder or right above the shoulder.
*One in the hand is worth 2 in the bush*
*One in the hand is worth 2 in the bush*
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by 257WBY 
on 1/13/21 at 3:36 pm to Icansee4miles
on 1/13/21 at 3:36 pm to Icansee4milesA deer will go a long way on a gut shot if they get jumped, regardless of bullet.
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by bbvdd 
on 1/13/21 at 3:45 pm to Icansee4miles
on 1/13/21 at 3:45 pm to Icansee4milesquote:
Bump for a related question. When I never found any blood from the buck I swore I whacked a few weeks ago, I started reading up on the bullets I’ve used for years. Hornady 140 Grain SST in .270 Winchester. A lot of discussion in hunting forums about them blowing up a deer’s insides (can confirm), making jelly out of the opposite front shoulder (yep), but a lot of guys saying the bullet didn’t exit or for whatever reason, little to no blood trail. I’ve only neck shot does for years and the last buck i shot a few years ago in the body did go for a pretty long run considering his guts were scrambled. Anyone have experience with this bullet? It’s accurate as Hell in my gun and the doe I shot that same weekend fell over like a tree where she stood.
SST are not designed for deep penetration. They are designed just like the Nosler Ballistic tips and basically grenade in the deer (this is greatly depending on the speed, faster the more they grenade).
140s out of a .270 are screaming and will not give you a reliable exit within most hunting ranges.
Sometime you get a bang flop and sometime you get one that will run and you won't find a blood trail most likely.
re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.Posted by tigerfoot 
on 1/13/21 at 4:21 pm to Icansee4miles
on 1/13/21 at 4:21 pm to Icansee4milesquote:The worst whitetail round ever created. It is a deer loser. If you hunt in pines and shoot em at a distance where you may not see EXACTLY where they ran, good freaking luck.
ve used for years. Hornady 140 Grain SST in .270 Winchester.
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