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re: Whitetail rifle shot placement debate.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:37 am to oleyeller
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:37 am to oleyeller
my dad taught me vitals shot, I've tracked a whole bunch of deer like that.
a few years ago we started a big 10k acre ranch in texas, they like high shoulder. My last 8 or so haven't gone 6' total combined.
a few years ago we started a big 10k acre ranch in texas, they like high shoulder. My last 8 or so haven't gone 6' total combined.
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:44 pm to OldSouth
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Where do you aim? Behind the shoulder and try to get both lungs and the heart? Or go for the high shoulder shot and hit the nerve bundle that drops them instantly?
If a doe and I feel confident in my shot and gun, I'll go neck.
Regular shooting on a doe, behind the shoulder.
On a buck, pin the shoulder.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 2:17 pm to OldSouth
95% of the time if i’m on a plot and i have a comfortable rest it’s high shoulder or base of the neck just in front of the shoulder. If i’m in my climber and shot is quick i aim center mass square in the shoulder. I’d rather lose a little meat and have them dragging their front legs that chase them all over the mississippi swamp.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 2:28 pm to OldSouth
Lungs every time.
Doesn’t matter how big they are like one guy said-
A piece of led through both lungs and it’ll die quickly and close
Doesn’t matter how big they are like one guy said-
A piece of led through both lungs and it’ll die quickly and close
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:34 pm to SportTiger1
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Or that you'll shoot him 2 inches low and blow his esophagus in half and he'll die of starvation over the next few weeks.? I'm not sure why y'all cant see the issue with this.
For illustration purposes...
Wrong, the blue shot on the neck is instant death with a 30.06 within a 100 yards (i don't have any shots longer than that, so I can't speculate on a further distance). Do you have any idea of how much damage a 180 grain 30.06 does in that area? Killed dozens of deer with that shot, none took a step before hitting the ground.
If you have the privilege of knowing any 80 plus year old hunters ask them. They were taught this shot because they couldn't afford to waste ammo or meat.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:42 pm to OldSouth
I always shoot them right in the shoulder (maybe the back half) but I shoot a 30-06 and my longest shot is 200 yards.
Take the front end out and they don't go far.
I rarely gun hunt anymore, with the bow I want the leg stepping forward and try to put it in the crease under the shoulder
Take the front end out and they don't go far.
I rarely gun hunt anymore, with the bow I want the leg stepping forward and try to put it in the crease under the shoulder
Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:55 pm to greenbean
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Wrong, the blue shot on the neck is instant death with a 30.06 within a 100 yards (i don't have any shots longer than that, so I can't speculate on a further distance). Do you have any idea of how much damage a 180 grain 30.06 does in that area? Killed dozens of deer with that shot, none took a step before hitting the ground.
Someone hasn't met a poster on this board who was shot in the neck with a 7mm-08. I guess if it had been an '06 he wouldn't had made it, right?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:04 pm to upgrade
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Someone hasn't met a poster on this board who was shot in the neck with a 7mm-08. I guess if it had been an '06 he wouldn't had made it, right?
Not really following you hoss, I've never met anyone on this board, nor have I met someone who was shot in the neck (with any caliber).
I'm not in the business of shooting people in the neck and hopefully will never have to shoot a human. I can assure you through dozens of interactions that shooting a whitetail deer in the neck inside of 100 yards is instant death.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:35 am to greenbean
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have the privilege of knowing any 80 plus year old hunters ask them. They were taught this shot because they couldn't afford to waste ammo
The old people I know used shotguns, and aimed to break legs.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:57 am to greenbean
I don’t understand the neck shot haters. I’ve watched my dad drop deer for as long as I can remember with a .243. If I’m feeling confident in the shot, I do the same. I’ve never seen a deer breath, blink, or move after a neck shot. I don’t think any kind of vital shot on a deer is any more ethical than the other.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 3:49 pm to greenbean
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Not really following you hoss, I've never met anyone on this board, nor have I met someone who was shot in the neck (with any caliber).
I'm not in the business of shooting people in the neck and hopefully will never have to shoot a human. I can assure you through dozens of interactions that shooting a whitetail deer in the neck inside of 100 yards is instant death.
Nice to meet you
Opinion on Neck Shots- Meh
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:06 pm to greenbean
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If you have the privilege of knowing any 80 plus year old hunters ask them. They were taught this shot because they couldn't afford to waste ammo or meat.
If that was the case they’d just shoot em in the lungs. Way more meet on a neck that the ribs.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:07 pm to Columbia
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don’t understand the neck shot haters.
They lack confidence in themselves or their rifles. If a deer is facing you and looking dead at you, why wouldn't you put a bullet in that white patch on the throat?
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:12 pm to greenbean
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I can assure you through dozens of interactions that shooting a whitetail deer in the neck inside of 100 yards is instant death
I can assure you when I was a kid some dumbass old man told me (contrary to my father’s instructions) to shoot em in the neck and that resulted in me shooting a deer mid-neck with a .270 that we trailed for half a mile before he bled out.
Telling people neck shot and not specifying base of the neck tight to the shoulder centered up and down is misleading.
And I think you are a jackass for preaching to everyone to take neck shots. Just shoot the deer through the lungs. As long as you aren’t handicapped or a total fricking lazy slob you can track a deer the 50-100 yds he’s gonna run. If you go hunting and cannot track a lethally shot deer you are a bum.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:20 pm to tenfoe
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If you go hunting and cannot track a lethally shot deer you are a bum.
I guess im a bum. I've lost 5 deer, all shot and found a day to weeks later a few hundred yards away from where I shot them. No blood at all. None.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:41 pm to saintsfan1977
If you put 2 holes in his ribs through lungs he bleeds doesn’t matter if it’s a 22 mag
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:56 pm to OldSouth
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I thought neck shots were frowned upon by most hunters?
Neck shots make it more of a sport in my opinion. If you miss they get away. Also less chance of wounding a deer and it going off and dying somewhere else. When I used to hunt I would use a .243 for neck shots. Hunting days are over for me sadly because of back and neck problems. It really does suck that I can’t hunt anymore. I absolutely loved it. Being out in nature is great listening to all the sounds
Posted on 1/9/21 at 5:02 pm to Miketheseventh
Posted on 1/9/21 at 5:04 pm to saintsfan1977
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They lack confidence in themselves or their rifles.
Absolutely not.
Its a small target and it moves a lot. Its much easier to botch up than in/behind the shoulder which is a larger target and moves less than the neck/head
Do yall never have to shoot deer offhand or in a hurry or in an awkward position? Trying to shoot small out of a tripod sucks.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 5:08 pm to tenfoe
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If you put 2 holes in his ribs through lungs he bleeds doesn’t matter if it’s a 22 mag
That's not what you said earlier. You said people are bums if they can't track deer shot in the vitals.
If I shoot a deer in the chest, that's a 100% dead deer. Not a single person here will be able to track it in thick shite because there won't be any blood. And that's shot through the vitals. But I've killed 5 deer all broadside, all vital shots and no blood. Bullet just penciled through and closed up. One recovered the next day, some a week or 2 later.
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