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re: Today's episode of Haulover Inlet- Girl gets tossed from boat

Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:14 pm to
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Can someone explain to those freshwater baws like myself what the general strategy is for something like that?


Keep the bow up
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41046 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:44 pm to
The Boynton inlet is worse than Jupiter.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12459 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:52 am to
And not one life jacket was seen. Do saltwater guys not wear life jackets?
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24867 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:13 am to
My favorite was the dude showing off, by standing on the bow holding a rope like he was riding a bull. He got knocked on his arse.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23252 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:27 am to
Ole Baw is pretty good at spotting them.
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
7154 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 7:01 am to
I've seen similar conditions to that crossing the river from Batiste Collette to The Jump in Venice.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24216 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 7:23 am to
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That Midnight Express caught hell both times. Was it the boat or the Skip?


Captain, probably a reason he was all by himself on a $800,000 boat or however much it cost.

Those waves were all decently big but no reason to plow the bow like that on those bigger boats. Keep the bow up and throttle control. Most of those bigger center consoles with the right speed should have just stayed on top of them, if they wanted to go slower trim up to raise the bow and then throttle up anytime you were on top of a wave to prevent the bow from diving. I’m no captain but it’s pretty basic boating. There’s a reason why plenty of 19 foot boats handled the waves fine and the 40 footers didn’t, poor driving.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13261 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 7:37 am to
I think it was a strap or rope of some sort
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72109 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 7:38 am to
quote:

what the general strategy is for something like that?


Have a big boat with an assload of horsepower
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 9:22 am to
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I was getting ready to say how stupid it was for the driver was for letting a girl sit up on the bow.

But he was only stupid for not knowing how to drive a boat through the inlet.



No one needs to be sitting down going through haul over unless they are in a wheel chair and the chair is strapped in. Its a bad idea to be sitting in ANY boat going through almost ANY pass but especially that one. I took a friend and his wife through there once and she insisted on sitting on the bait tank in front of the console....obviously a place to sit....and she wound up on the deck....stand up and hang on. Haul over hasn't changed that I am aware of....that video is pretty typical once the wind starts and the ocean is running...I have haul over like a mill pond before sunrise....but back in the day no one ever had many problems...the problem now is boats like the one the girl got tossed out of is not designed to run water like that, especially in the hands of someone not accustomed to doing so....an open bow boat with a cabin can take on a dangerous amount of water in NO time if the bow cap goes under...not uncommon at haul over.....a wash deck merely is a nuisance but it can be catastrophic in a cabin boat or one that can hold more water than it can drain. We used to also pay attention to tides and wind conditions and would use Government Cut if needed....but folks now think they are invincible and run boats that are overweight and over powered in any and all conditions because they do not have the opportunity to do so only when conditions are right. If you have more than 3 adults aboard a 24 foot boat you are pushing its limits in most cases....get 6 - 8 and you are definitely going beyond wise.

And why do people feel the need to get out of the bay to cruise anyway? Expecially in Miami...other than cruising the beach when conditions are PERFECT if you ain't fishing stay inshore....there is nothing, in my opinion, more boring than riding in a boat offshore if you ain't fishing...running from the hill to an area or spot to spot is only tolerable for me if there is fishing to be had...if you are simply out for a day on the water stay in shore....there are marinas and restaurants and all sorts of shite...off shore there is nothing but water and fish...if you ain't after the latter, why bother???
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 9:35 am to
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Can someone explain to those freshwater baws like myself what the general strategy is for something like that?


Keep the bow up


Pretty much...pretty simple. Know your boat and know when to back off and when to power up...its not a place to be on cruise control or WOT unless you need all the power you have got. Understand what conditions are apt to be from knowing what the tide is doing, where the wind is coming from and how busy the pass is going to be. Sea conditions are prone to being meaningless until you clear the pass...it can be flat calm outside and a nightmare in the pass...seldom goes to other way UNLESS there is a STRONG offshore wind blowing the water out of the inlet...but even then there is going to be some point where the two forces meet. Running a boat offshore takes far more attention to detail than doing so inshore. Its a similar difference between being in a landlocked impoundment and a navigable waterway...if there are commercial boats about there is a different level of scrutiny required than if the only other boats on the water are houseboats and pontoon boats...add in STRONG tidal currents, winds and bottom changes that force the energy from the same to the surface and it requires a lot of attention. It happens millions of times a day around the world so it can be done safely but it takes some experience and common sense. If someone can show you how a few times when conditions suck it can help a bunch.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 9:51 am to
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The Boynton inlet is worse than Jupiter.


All of them down there have their moments....I prefer St Lucie but it can be interesting when it wants to be. Palm Beach is my second choice. Between the two the fish are there...no need to go further south in my experience...Palm Beach is almost due west of the west end of the Bahamas...65 miles from land fall to land fall and most of the year there is a picket line of coast guard boats between the two and sea tows....and personal boats...and the gulf stream keeps the fish from getting stale although they see a LOT of pressure within 10 miles of the hill...

Boynton is NARROW...when it goes south it does so in HURRY

Hillsboro is also usually pretty good....but to far south
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 9:56 am to
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And not one life jacket was seen. Do saltwater guys not wear life jackets?


I do...now...but when I was younger I didn't and almost fell completely off the transom getting the hook out of a sailfish off Stuart by myself years ago...no more. I do not get in my boat without a pfd. I put it on at the truck and do not take it off until I get back to the truck. Duck hunting, inshore, offshore, trout fishing...makes no difference.

Take a test and try to pull yourself over the transom of a boat at the ramp. As long as the water is over your head it is TOUGH....now imagine the boat being under power or the wind and current taking it away from you...in the few seconds it takes to go over and pop to the surface the boat will be a LONG way away....now swim in that same wind and current where the boat is bigger than you on both accounts and moving faster than your....and then try to crawl over the transom....in seas...it can and is done daily but it isn't easy unless you are in great physcial shape...
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25860 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 10:59 am to
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Can someone explain to those freshwater baws like myself what the general strategy is for something like that?
Be an OT baller and just calmly cruise through

Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 11:45 am to
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Be an OT baller and just calmly cruise through


It'd take at least a GM 2500 to haul that thing down the highway!

Haul over only looks like that occasionally...before 9 am and at dead slack tide which only happens rarely....when the tide is moving, which is always in one direction or the other, only momentarily stopping while switching directions, haul over looks like the other video most of the time...nose up and hands on the throttles at all times, thats the ticket...
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
5495 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:11 pm to
What about the Blonde Kim Kardashian? O.T. 3.50?
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
4077 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:07 pm to
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 Boynton inlet is worse than Jupiter.


Looking at a map I think it was the Ft Peirce inlet as it was narrow. And like 30 yrs ago. All those narrow ones are sketchy or can be. Grandfolks lived on Hutchinson Island.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87411 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

What about the Blonde Kim Kardashian

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61452 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:41 pm to
At 2:53 you see a bathing suit get eaten.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14611 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:37 pm to
OK

(playing debils advocate here)

First thiong nOt a powerboat person, been there done that, and sail too; however have run big 15-20 foot waves in a canoe and we always quarter them.

There it's better to go up and over at a angle, so you better fit into it's wave period (wave-to-trough-length), and slow is better. This keeps the bow from getting stood (as bad) and stern from getting pushed down. In them you can get cartwheeled otherwise (back and over) and I'm guessing that's also theoretical once a powerboat get's inundated. The angling also helps to keep the boat flatter since it flattens the steepness. IE: Same elevation - Spread over a great length. eta: Of course you'd have to angle back the other way... and then again... in a narrow inlet (change back and forth if the waves keep going on).

Yes or NO ?
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 4:40 pm
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