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re: The Day I Shot T4

Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:54 am to
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53630 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:54 am to
we were rabbit hunting one day and had it all mapped out who would be where so that no one got shot. Well one group decided to change their path without telling anyone. I took a shot and all the sudden heard a bunch of yelling from the brush. I froze thinking I had just shot someone. My first thought was that it was a game warden since no one was suppose to be there but it was a man and his son. scared the ever living frick out of me but thank god no one was hit
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14538 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:01 am to
Again, thank you all for the kind words and positivity.

I'm looking forward to relatively stress free days in the woods.

I'm bowhunting more. T4 has the rifle that shot him. For now, he's the last thing I shot. I've missed the shite out of a few since. Pulling triggers isn't what it used to be. I'm trying to get there though. I can't just not hunt though.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17340 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:04 am to
It’s just gonna take time, and a recognition that you’ll never make that mistake again. Hang in there man.
Posted by impjr
louisiana
Member since May 2009
131 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:06 pm to
Thank you for sharing. Awesome testimony of how both of you have handled this tragedy. God bless you both.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12106 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:34 pm to
Thanks for sharing your story. I used to hunt with a buddy that would guide duck hunts and he would take me and others on off days when he didn't have hunts booked. He would always start out by asking everyone what was the most important thing about today's hunt. "Safety". Then he would go over all his expectations. Can't be stressed enough and as I've gotten older it stays at the forefront. Some of the stupid things we did in our younger years it's a wonder no one was hurt.
On another note had a buddy quail hunting in New Mex who was shot in the face with bird shot. The docs couldn't get all the pellets out due to their proximity to nerves. I've seen X-rays of his face and it's scary. Thanks again for sharing and stay safe folks.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25079 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Thanks for sharing. We are all safe hunters until we are not. We all get comfortable, we have done this so many times.. we know what we are doing. But thats when accidents happen, when we are comfortable. Im 34, and as the "expert" lol, hunter that i am, i get comfortable and do dumb stuff. I ride with the gun loaded, you know in case i see a deer leaving the camp. I climb stands and dont use a harness, you know because ive done it so many times that im comfortable. Fact is, everyone makes mistakes. It happens.. should you have not shot because you didnt see your target, sure... should your friend had his orange on, sure. But it happend, its overwith.. you both are alive. Move on man, no sense in letting that one second effect your life. Everyone makes mistakes every day.



This is one of the best post I've ever seen on here.

Well said Yeller.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3643 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:37 pm to
I'm with everyone else. No need to beat anyone up over this. Anyone that's hunted in groups or on public land with other hunters has had the opportunity to be on either end of a situation like this. Sharing stories is a good reminder for everyone to think "safety" on their way out into the field or up into the stand.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12757 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:51 pm to
Thanks for sharing. I know it is tough.

Like others have said, it is amazing this doesn't happen more often, even with experienced hunters. I'm not a big hunter. I've said it here before, but my dad wasn't into hunting so I rarely got the chance to go when I was young, except with friends or uncles.

A couple of years ago, I went out with some guys from church for a quail hunt. It wasn't that great from the hunting perspective as they were pen raised and didn't want to fly. About half the group was experienced hunters, and a few like myself who were not but were well versed in firearms. One poor guy had never shot a gun in his life. We took him to an area where we were shooting clays for him to experience it before he pulled the trigger on a bird.

Later in the day I end up walking around in a group of maybe 4-5 guys, trailing a leader and his dog. It was this guy's turn to shoot next, and I think he swept the shotgun past 3 of us. I was behind him so it wasn't me, but I've never seen 3 grown men hit the ground so fast. We stopped and had our 2nd or 3rd safety briefing of the day. I told them I was out and went back to shoot clays for the rest of the day.
Posted by Rebnbama
East Alabama
Member since Jan 2014
121 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:15 pm to
I need to make my son read this. We can all be reminded of how quick things can happen.

I've joined a new club this year and I hope they read it as well.

Great post
Posted by stoms
Coastal
Member since May 2012
1729 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:49 pm to
Jesus yalls story is powerful and one hell of a lesson. One day, and it may be years, y’all will laugh about it. I know it doesn’t seem like it now but time has a way of healing. I’ll send some prayers your way too bud. Can’t imagine.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9188 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:58 pm to
It took a lot of guts to write that. I don't know that I could have done it given the situation.

We all make mistakes, and that's what this was. It was a mistake.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
It doesn't make you stupid.
It doesn't even make you dangerous.

I would feel safer hunting with you than I would someone who hadn't made this mistake.

You write well, you should post more often.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20537 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:19 pm to
Good stuff man. You should look into writing your story for a magazine or blog or website or something as a teaching lesson for others.

I always wear orange during gun season and I always walk in and out of the woods with a light in the dark, you just never know and don't want to risk your life on some other idiot behind the trigger.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

I always wear orange during gun season and I always walk in and out of the woods with a light in the dark, you just never know and don't want to risk your life on some other idiot behind the trigger.

I am made fun of, but I wear an orange cap and a full vest. And, like you,I have my flashlight on in any low light scenario.

I have always been worried about an accident, but as I have gotten older and a few accidents that hit close to home...I just see no other way.

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166517 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

"Hog!" he yells and grabs his BAR .308 and jumps out. I grab my A Bolt 7-08 and follow suit out the passenger side. "You go up there, and I'll look this way to see if they come out," he said. Got it. He'll be right there and I go up a little ways and start scanning the brush through my scope. I can hear the hogs,


i know behop pulled the trigger but the mutual decisions that was made in this split instance is just as important of a lesson as identifying target. This is actually the bigger mental decision that is important for us hunters to digest, getting caught up in the moment of excitement led to a very dangerous environment quickly all over a few hogs.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5152 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:33 pm to
Damn what a story. Can't imagine what you were going through and what you still go through. Very well written story too
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

all over a few hogs.

I think this is one of the reasons for the accident, I have no doubt in my mind that if it were deer almost all (regrettably, we cant say all) hunters would be looking for a good shot in the vitals. We almost all do not view hogs as a game animal, but a nuisance. If you hit them bad, it is sometimes viewed as better because they run off and you dont have to fool with em.


Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:48 pm to
Damn man....most of us here can't even imagine what you and him went through.

It's just good to know that at least somewhere something higher is watching over in at least some of these instances.

Not much we can say to you but I hope you find it in you to get back out there and do some hunting....maybe even can find it in you to hunt with T4 again if you and him are up for it. It may be the type of thing that helps you and him both.

Stay strong bro.
Posted by T4
Member since Mar 2014
288 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:05 pm to
I've hunted with him many many times since. Spent the afternoon setting up a brush blind in the woods with him actually. Sum bitch needs to quit missing all these deer I keep putting him in front of. In all seriousness, he is the definition of a true friend and is an irreplaceable person in my life. I've wanted to write out our story for a long time, but have always wanted to protect him so I haven't. In light of him getting to the point that he is strong enough to talk about it openly and him giving me permission I intend on writing the long drawn out version of the story tonight. Stay tuned.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:34 pm to
25 or so years ago my buddy and I were climbing out the back of a truck. We were only 15-16 years old, but we were already living the dream. Hunting and fishing everyday and we were damn good at it. I was on the ground and unloading a Remington 700. An old one that you had to take off safety to unload. Well, he's climbing out at the time with his head near the muzzle (wasn't aware how close he was......my fault) that was pointed in what should have been a safe direction. Click safety off to open bolt and BOOM. I don't know how close I came to shooting him in the head, but it was too damn close. I still think about it all the time. It gives me chills and makes me grimace. It terrifies me how quickly it can happen. I look at my son and I understand what my carelessness could have taken from his family.


Hang in there, dude. Hug your kids. Hug him. Be thankful you both have a second chance. Life is good. You two dudes just have a better understanding of that then most.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8781 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:24 pm to
As others have mentioned, THANKS for sharing. T4 has accepted your apologies and supports your healing. That's what true friends do. Until you Let Go, the guilt will feel like 1,000 pounds on your shoulders. The Serenity Prayer is your friend in times like this.

I can tell you're still dealing with the grief cycle and it's many stages. You've experienced countless emotions of denial, anger, bargaining, and depression. The final stage is Acceptance which will set you free. Only YOU can choose when it's time to move on and learn from your past. I support you to open up and talk to others about this unfortunate accident. Writing, conversing, and sharing will help you conquer the emotions that continue to haunt you. Your post was a HUGE step towards recovery.

I truly believe you're a good dude like the rest of us. Complacency can be the most dangerous mindset that often times results in an injury or accident. As outdoorsmen, as soon as we let our guard down and take things for granted, we become vulnerable to injury and accidents. The most important thing is you're both here to talk about and share your experience so others will learn from it. Prayers and support sent for you both
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