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re: The Day I Shot T4
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:53 am to beHop
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:53 am to beHop
My heart goes out to you dude! Hang in there and stop beating yourself up. It was an accident and you're both here today to talk about it. You're still friends and that's a good thing.
I know how you feel as I shot someone but it was a completely different situation. Mine was self defense and just about every day since I think about it. If I had to do it over I probably would do the same exact thing in my situation as it was life or death for me or a family member.
I will keep you both in my prayers as you both seem like great people.
Stay strong!
I know how you feel as I shot someone but it was a completely different situation. Mine was self defense and just about every day since I think about it. If I had to do it over I probably would do the same exact thing in my situation as it was life or death for me or a family member.
I will keep you both in my prayers as you both seem like great people.
Stay strong!
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:54 am to Da Hammer
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I will make sure I learn from it and my kids learn from it.
I would hope we all can do this.
Part of me want to print this and post it at the camp.
Hell of a story OP thanks for sharing.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:54 am to beHop
Just goes to show how quickly things can change during a hunt and how we always need to err on the side of caution if there's any doubt whatsoever. Takes a solid man to admit his faults especially in a situation like that and on a public forum like this. Thankfully everything turned out ok
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:03 am to beHop
Elaborate, I’ll give you that...
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:05 am to beHop
Sorry for what you and he are both dealing with. I'm not a hunter, so I have no real understanding of how a "buddy" system hunt works.
It seems jumping out to kill a hog, when you are both coming from opposite areas was where things broke down.
Seems like a good lesson for hunters to never lose sight of your hunting companion ever.
It seems jumping out to kill a hog, when you are both coming from opposite areas was where things broke down.
Seems like a good lesson for hunters to never lose sight of your hunting companion ever.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:28 am to unclejhim
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Part of me want to print this and post it at the camp.
Fine by me if that's what you're getting at.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:36 am to beHop
Keep posting in the OB - I bet sharing the outdoors will help move you past it.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:06 am to beHop
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ETA: his too.
Nah - mostly because he came through pretty okay. He has stories to tell - FOREVER - "Remember when beHop shot me? I don't recommend it, but it wasn't that bad. I only metaphorically dodged a bullet that day."
Actually, y'all both got lucky AF, baw.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 8:07 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:06 am to beHop
Man, that’s incredible to read. In reading everything about both of yalls stories it just shows me that y’all are two great guys that went through a terrible accident and because of who you are came out the other side as examples to us all.
Did you screw up? Yup. Did you handle your screw up the best possible way? Yup. Like I tell my son, everyone makes mistakes, it’s whether or not you let the mistake define you that shows who you are.
I know reading this has made me become more conscious of my own safety. We all think we’re not “that guy” but the truth is many times were only seconds away from being that guy
Did you screw up? Yup. Did you handle your screw up the best possible way? Yup. Like I tell my son, everyone makes mistakes, it’s whether or not you let the mistake define you that shows who you are.
I know reading this has made me become more conscious of my own safety. We all think we’re not “that guy” but the truth is many times were only seconds away from being that guy
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:08 am to beHop
Unimaginable
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:16 am to beHop
Can't imagine what ya'll have gone through. Just shows how even experienced safe hunters' lives can change in the blink of an eye. I always tell my son, as my dad told me, that you can't take that bullet back once it's on its' way, and you can NEVER be too careful.
Props for letting us know the story. I never knew what actually happened, and I can now see how it did. Thank God that it wasn't fatal. I hope you can continue to recover from this.
Props for letting us know the story. I never knew what actually happened, and I can now see how it did. Thank God that it wasn't fatal. I hope you can continue to recover from this.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:47 am to beHop
Thanks for sharing. We are all safe hunters until we are not. We all get comfortable, we have done this so many times.. we know what we are doing. But thats when accidents happen, when we are comfortable. Im 34, and as the "expert" lol, hunter that i am, i get comfortable and do dumb stuff. I ride with the gun loaded, you know in case i see a deer leaving the camp. I climb stands and dont use a harness, you know because ive done it so many times that im comfortable. Fact is, everyone makes mistakes. It happens.. should you have not shot because you didnt see your target, sure... should your friend had his orange on, sure. But it happend, its overwith.. you both are alive. Move on man, no sense in letting that one second effect your life. Everyone makes mistakes every day.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:56 am to oleyeller
well put
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:10 am to oleyeller
Thanks yeller
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:12 am to beHop
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beHop
Oleyeller said it well. You're a good man for posting the story and opening yourself up to the internet holier than thous who love controversy. Accidents happen man. I think it goes without saying that everyone here - including T4 - understands that. Some accidents are just way more severe than others.
To me, fault is totally irrelevant to your situation. I understand you feel guilt, and there's probably nothing that I could say here to change that. That said, I'd encourage you to try to get back in the woods just because your story is a great example for all of us (myself included). Even though I would describe myself as someone who places a heavy emphasis on safety in the marsh and in the woods, I am way too comfortable. Your story is a reminder that you can never be too comfortable. I would try to get back in the woods with your friends, because both of you really are a walking example of why safety matters so much.
It really does take quite a human to come post something like this in a public place.
to you, and to your buddy T4 for taking it in stride. Sounds like you guys have a great group of friends. This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:17 am to unclejhim
quote:I think all camps need to have a dose of safety added. Everyone thinks they are immune, they are not. I accept the risk of hanging around guns and others, but there is a risk.
Part of me want to print this and post it at the camp.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:57 am to beHop
Thanks for sharing. We all need to learn from this. Orange is our friend.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:01 am to bluemoons
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opening yourself up to the internet holier than thous who love controversy.
I think the OB has a little better collective sense than the OT, so I don't expect as much blowback here.
But, no one can question that beHop has been a straight up guy, a man who owns up to his mistakes.
Which reminds me of my position on "holier than thous" (essentially self-righteous people). Do you want to know why people are self-righteous?
Because they're so very flawed, they fear that if they stop pointing out the flaws and errors in others, someone might notice THEIR flaws. I remind myself of this fact when I start getting a little self-righteous and tamp that down a bit.
We're all human and accidents happen.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:04 am to beHop
Your post brought back memories for me. The last time I ever ran dogs for deer I was 14. My uncle put me on a spot and walked out of the woods and a ways down the road, far enough I couldn't see him anymore. I shot a doe that ran 5 yards in front of me, and hollered "got her!!" when she toppled over. But all I heard in return was my uncle moaning. I ran 50 yards towards the sound and he was hunched over. One of the buckshot pellets had hit him in the arm. I've never been that scared in my life. It ended up being just a graze, the pellet either went through the deer or hit a lot of brush on it's way to him. He swore up and down to the game wardens it was his fault for not letting me know where he'd be standing, but it shook me for years after. I didn't fire a gun for over a year and didn't kill anything for several more years. Now I always hesitate before I take a shot, and probably will for the rest of my life. The silver lining is that from that moment on I've been a complete nazi about gun safety.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:33 am to unclejhim
I shot a rabbit with a 12 ga that some dogs were running once. When I looked back over my path of sight I noticed the head of a 13 year old we were hunting with. I still shudder at the thought. He was below a rise and the only thing visible was his head through brush.
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