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Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:22 pm to REB BEER
Everytime I'm down in Shell beach I pass by that place they process them to ship right by the Yscloskey bridge.........its just staggering to see how many go through there in one day. They do that 6 days a week, every week. And they toss the dead ones in the water, you can see huge crabs just floating off with the tide. Vast majority of those fly up to Maryland and other east coast destinations
All for setting seasons
All for setting seasons
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:24 pm to Tigah D
Thanks BP.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:29 pm to Tigah D
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Vast majority of those fly up to Maryland and other east coast destinations
I see it a lot in Delacroix too. One day heading back in from fishing they had 5-6 refrigerated trucks (about 3/4-1/2 size of an 18 wheeler) lined up at one of the crab docks. On the side of the trucks in big letters "Chesapeake Bay Crabs" in a pretty genuine looking seal/logo.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 2:32 pm to wickowick
4 things that hurt the industry.
No. 1 rakes on crab boats. A single boat with a hard working Capt can easily run 250 traps a day with rake. You not pulling up 250 traps by hand in a day, you would have to be He-Man to do that.
No. 2 redfish and drum, crabs No. 1 predator. When gill nets were banned the population of redfish and drum exploded. More Redfish = more crabs getting eaten.
3 less marsh for baby crabs to hide in from predators.
4 salt boxes on trawl boat. Shrimpers dump their catch and scoop it straight into the salt box killing everything that goes in it. They could easily rake it to give the crabs a chance to escape and grow. Instead they kill them and throw them overboard.
No. 1 rakes on crab boats. A single boat with a hard working Capt can easily run 250 traps a day with rake. You not pulling up 250 traps by hand in a day, you would have to be He-Man to do that.
No. 2 redfish and drum, crabs No. 1 predator. When gill nets were banned the population of redfish and drum exploded. More Redfish = more crabs getting eaten.
3 less marsh for baby crabs to hide in from predators.
4 salt boxes on trawl boat. Shrimpers dump their catch and scoop it straight into the salt box killing everything that goes in it. They could easily rake it to give the crabs a chance to escape and grow. Instead they kill them and throw them overboard.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:22 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Couple al that with no season, unlimited traps for commercial fisherman, no limit to number of commercial licenses and no poundage quotas and it is amazing there are any out there at all.
BP also screwed up something I believe it was the dispersant they used. Couldn’t catch enough to boil at the camp in the immediate years after the spill.
BP also screwed up something I believe it was the dispersant they used. Couldn’t catch enough to boil at the camp in the immediate years after the spill.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 3:29 pm to maisweh
Have you ever seen the sign by the bridge in Larose that says "Fat females, full of eggs"? I guess that they are talking about crabs 
Posted on 11/16/17 at 4:30 pm to CHEDBALLZ
I’ve always heard the decline coincided with the drop in redfish limits. I don’t know what they were before that it would that big of difference. The gill nets make more sense.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:05 pm to wickowick
what was more effective then the crab ban was that it required "ALL" crab traps removed from the water.
everywhere you go you can see crab floats are about half the numbers you used to see.
the reason was guys were out there running 500 traps and 300 of those werent theirs, they were old traps other guys stopped running and baiting so all they had to do was bait and run them to double their catch and no extra expense.
when the ban happened, guys took "their" traps out and the rest were picked up and scrapped as derelict traps so it had the affect of cutting the numbers of traps in the water nearly in half.
if they would do this every year. a total ban for 1 or 2 months, then that would help a lot more then just a 2 -month ban on female crab catch.
in truth, if crabs really are in trouble, just eliminate commercial harvest of females permanently until the population rebounds
everywhere you go you can see crab floats are about half the numbers you used to see.
the reason was guys were out there running 500 traps and 300 of those werent theirs, they were old traps other guys stopped running and baiting so all they had to do was bait and run them to double their catch and no extra expense.
when the ban happened, guys took "their" traps out and the rest were picked up and scrapped as derelict traps so it had the affect of cutting the numbers of traps in the water nearly in half.
if they would do this every year. a total ban for 1 or 2 months, then that would help a lot more then just a 2 -month ban on female crab catch.
in truth, if crabs really are in trouble, just eliminate commercial harvest of females permanently until the population rebounds
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:09 pm to pjab
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I’ve always heard the decline coincided with the drop in redfish limits. I don’t know what they were before that it would that big of difference. The gill nets make more sense.
because while 40% of a redfish's diet is shrimp and fish, 60% of a redfish's diet is crabs, there are way too many reds now because they refuse to raise the creel limits and lower the minimum size to 14" even though the science says they need to do that, but they wont. anyway, too many reds eating crabs means you arent going to have as many crabs in the water.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:11 pm to keakar
This. The number of crab traps is just ridiculous. Once they pulled them for that month it made a huge difference. I don't mind crabbing but the damn crabs don't stand a chance. You couldn't even drive your boat through some areas because more traps than open water.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:30 pm to LEASTBAY
Fishery Management Plan Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries Office of Fisheries
This is a couple of years old but lots of good info from LDWF
This is a couple of years old but lots of good info from LDWF
quote:
Water temperature is the main environmental factor that
affects blue crab growth; the optimal water temperature
for growth ranges from 13 to 27°C, or about 55 to 81°F
(Leffler 1972). The blue crab’s growth rate increases
directly with temperature, given adequate food and optimal
salinity (Holland et al. 1971, Cadman and Weinstein
1988). In Louisiana, Adkins (1972) found that juvenile
blue crabs grew 14 millimeters (0.5 inches) per month, and
crabs larger than 85 millimeters (3 inches) grew 15 to 20
millimeters (0.6 to 0.8 inches) per month. Darnell (1959)
estimated blue crab growth to be 16.7 millimeters (0.66
inches) per month in Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana.
quote:
Overfished Status
A spawning stock biomass (SSB) level below SSBlimit indicates that blue crab is overfished. As this limit is defined in the most recent assessment, the Louisiana blue crab stock is currently not overfished. However, results indicate the stock was considered overfished in 1995 and 1996. The 2012 and 2013 estimates of exploitable biomass are below SSB target.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:37 pm to wickowick
I think the invention of the skimmer also has allot to do with crab and flounder populations. They drag the bottoms of just about every shallow bay for several months a year in spring and fall
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:44 pm to bayoudude
Anyone got a good blue crab egg recipe?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:46 pm to rmc
Normally just pile them on a ritz with a little dip. Don’t get much better than that
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:28 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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No. 2 redfish and drum, crabs No. 1 predator. When gill nets were banned the population of redfish and drum exploded. More Redfish = more crabs getting eaten
My dad would Gillnet in Cameron before they were banned. We never caught a single redfish or drum. Caught a shite ton of flounder though that's what we were fishing for.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:42 pm to pakowitz
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No. 2 redfish and drum, crabs No. 1 predator. When gill nets were banned the population of redfish and drum exploded. More Redfish = more crabs getting eaten
This is truth.
SSB for Red Drum has skyrocketed since then. Problem is the state doesn't know much about the adult, spawning Red Drum because sampling is difficult. At 4-5 years old they move offshore into big schools. They don't sample for the big adults in the gulf. They don't get harvested offshore because it's banned in the EEZ.
Age comps for Red Drum having been trending older as well from the inshore sampling the state does.
It's an interesting theory that I think is closer to the truth than we know.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:37 am to byutgr
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Have you ever seen the sign by the bridge in Larose that says "Fat females, full of eggs"? I guess that they are talking about crabs
I see it every day
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:39 am to bayoudude
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no limit to number of commercial licenses
I'm pretty sure theres a limit to commercial licenses... like its harder to get one now or something, or maybe you have to work X amount of time under someone with a license.. I forgot how it works.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 7:40 am to gaetti15
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quote:
No. 2 redfish and drum, crabs No. 1 predator. When gill nets were banned the population of redfish and drum exploded. More Redfish = more crabs getting eaten
This is truth.
SSB for Red Drum has skyrocketed since then. Problem is the state doesn't know much about the adult, spawning Red Drum because sampling is difficult. At 4-5 years old they move offshore into big schools. They don't sample for the big adults in the gulf. They don't get harvested offshore because it's banned in the EEZ.
i don't think the redfish are at the levels they were pre - blackened redfish... they were damn near a pest before that.
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