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re: Rifle "misfire" at a deer

Posted on 11/30/24 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33580 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 2:52 pm to
Sounds like a hang fire and more likely to do with his 40 year old ammo getting moisture or some other crap in it.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 3:42 pm to
I'm surprised no one has asked where is this guy hunting. For someone who puts so little prep into hunting how'd he stumble across a nice buck?
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6952 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 3:44 pm to
If it was ammo problem I guarantee you it was hornady stuff. Had one click on a .270 and 30-06 through the years. Both hornady
Posted by gmshooter
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
420 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 3:45 pm to
The hang fire has me. I can understand the misfire but not the delayed shot. Either it is going to go off or not. Sounds like it is buck fever and he missed.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12999 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

For someone who puts so little prep into hunting how'd he stumble across a nice buck?


Short answer: He married into them
Posted by Rarnette
Member since Jul 2016
79 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 4:41 pm to
I can’t believe the strike against the fire pin then the delay. The way a primer works either it goes off or it doesn’t. Can’t imagine a scenario where there is delayed ignition. Think he full of shite.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12999 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

can’t believe the strike against the fire pin then the delay.


Based on the info provided above, I don't think the delay was after the pin struck the primer. I think the delay was between the trigger engaging and the firing pin releasing. Due to rust, dirt, corrosion, etc
Posted by Rarnette
Member since Jul 2016
79 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 5:16 pm to
What made the clicking noise?
Posted by DocHolliday1964
Member since Dec 2012
1374 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:09 pm to

quote:

What made the clicking noise?


The trigger relasing the firing pin. The pin begins to move but bogs down in the crud. If it pushes through it can do so with enough strength to cause a hangfire. It can also cause a light strike where the primer is dimpled but not deep enough to fire. Both of the above “sound” the same to the shooter (until the gun fires in the first case).
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 6:10 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31356 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:48 pm to
Wasn’t this one of the symptoms of the bad Remington rifles from a few years back?
Posted by DocHolliday1964
Member since Dec 2012
1374 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:53 pm to
IIRC, those were headspace issues where the chamber was cut too long allowing the cartridge to seat too deeply causing light primer strikes not hangfires.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12280 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:03 pm to
Hang fires happened, doubt this was his problem but no way to know.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3932 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

C) It happened the way he said. It's a problem with the ammunition


If it happened with Hornady ammunition, I’d buy it, I’ve talked with too many people that have had that issue with hot day, where the firing pin is set too deep. Tell him to switch to federal, if it happens again, then it’s a problem with his rifle.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9918 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 8:09 pm to
As mentioned above, bolt needs to be taken apart and cleaned. Gunk, oil, debris, crap will affect firing pin ignition. Additionally the factory primer could be seated a few thousandths to deep causing a light primer strike





Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27259 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:28 pm to
Savage makes a trigger that gives you that true squeeze feeling. Forget what they call them. It if you have never shot one you might consider it a delayed firing. May be something like that.

Edit: it’s called accutrigger. I may be describing it wrong above. LINK about savage accutrigger.
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 9:32 pm
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10892 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:29 pm to
Last year I had a misfire. Aiming at an 8 point, click. No fire. First time that’s happened. I kept the Barnes bullet with the indentation.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12622 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 4:54 pm to
November 1995 Marlin .30-30 click! Winchester 150gr soft pernts. Watched the nice 8 go up the river bank after racking in a new shell. Shot that gun many times prior and after. Never had another issue.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1576 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:55 pm to
If this happened the way he says, he's either using old ammo he keeps in a damp truck all year and the powder is caked. If this is the case, guarantee he is scraping crap off the shells before he loads them.

I've also seen this happen when someone cleans their gun with an air compressor. It'll look clean but all sorts of crap will be blown into places it shouldn't go. As others have stated, there may be a bunch of fouling in the firing pin channel.

Bad ammo is more likely.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
2282 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

A hang fire is an ammunition problem.


This, if it simply didn’t fire than it could be either the rifle or ammo… with the rifle being the most likely culprit. But a delayed firing has nothing to do with the rifle.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29869 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:53 am to
I had a Browning BPS hang/delay fire on me once. Was hunting a beaver pond and some ducks came in. When I pulled the trigger I was so used to immediately pumping the gun that I did that on instinct without noticing the gun didn't fire. Shell went off when it was in partially ejected. It was just a muffled pop. The BPS ejects out the bottom of the gun so it shot pieces of brass down into the water around my legs. The plastic part and some of the brass was stuck in the action. Spooked me bad for a minute. Once I cleared it the gun worked with no problem but I hesitated each time to make sure the shell fired before pumping. Sent the blown out shell to Remington since it was their ammo. They sent me a case of shells and a hat. Their guess and mine was the shell had gotten wet somehow which delayed the ignition. The other shells I had worked fine that day.

Back to the OP, my guess would be the ammo, IF the gun has fired fine other times. .
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