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Not happy with this Walther...
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:42 am
I made a mistake in buying a used Walter PPX. It is in excellent condition and looks brand new. Ok, I admit it. Got a great deal on it from one of my clients. I am not comfortable with it simply because it does not have an external safety. After the first round is chambered or fired, the Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point. I just don't like that at all. Otherwise, the Walther shoots great and is very comfortable in my hands. The lack of an external safety is very worrisome to me. Anyone here on the OB have any experience or opinions on a Walther and this issue? I will probably trade it for something else...with an external safety. TIA
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:45 am to BFIV
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The lack of an external safety is very worrisome to me. Anyone here on the OB have any experience or opinions on a Walther and this issue?
Pretty sure it isn't an "issue", and just simply how the gun is designed. Don't pull the trigger, and it won't fire.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:46 am to BFIV
This gonna be good...
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:47 am to BFIV
Parking my car right here
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:48 am to BFIV
Every gun has a safety, it's located between your ears.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:48 am to BFIV
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I am not comfortable with it simply because it does not have an external safety.
External safeties on a double action semi is the equivalent to putting a safety on a double action revolver. Do you advocate that?
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After the first round is chambered or fired, the Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point. I just don't like that at all.
If you disengage the safety, how are you supposed to prevent the gun from firing if the trigger is accidentally depressed then?
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The lack of an external safety is very worrisome to me.
Glocks do not have external safeties. Classic Sigs do not have external safeties. Smith M&P pistols do not have external safeties. Those 3 brands have about 95% of the police pistol market lined up. Why do you suppose that is?
Because a mechanical safety on a weapon of this type is another thing to break or another thing to remember in your manual of arms when your life depends on it.
If you can't be trained to follow rule #1 (keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction at all times/don't point the muzzle at anything you do not want to destroy) and keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you are ready to fire, you're a danger to yourself and everyone around you. You don't need to be possessing any weapon, safety or not.
I hate to be so harsh, but this is a serious subject. Safeties belong on long guns and single action pistols, not modern, double action pistols intended for combat/self-defense.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:48 am to BFIV
You should try to trade for a Glock.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:51 am to BFIV
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made a mistake in buying a used Walter PPX
you've got my attention
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It is in excellent condition and looks brand new
still doesn't sound like a problem
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I am not comfortable with it simply because it does not have an external safety
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After the first round is chambered or fired, the Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point
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Walther shoots great and is very comfortable in my hands
so whats wrong with the gun?
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The lack of an external safety is very worrisome to me. Anyone here on the OB have any experience or opinions on a Walther and this issue
I have this gun and my finger has never "accidentally" pressed the boom button. this is a non issue.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:53 am to BFIV
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the Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point.
So it fires when you pull the trigger. Isn't that the point of a gun?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:54 am to BFIV
I really don't care what others say, if I was uncomfortable with any gun, it would have a new home.
The times I have made mistakes in life, it was from not listening to that little voice.
The times I have made mistakes in life, it was from not listening to that little voice.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:54 am to Ace Midnight
I've always been a wheel gun person. This is the first semi-auto I've ever owned. If an external safety is not necessary on a semi-auto, why does the 1911 Colt have a grip safety? That makes sense to me.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:57 am to BFIV
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I made a mistake in buying a used Walter PPX. It is in excellent condition and looks brand new. Ok, I admit it. Got a great deal on it from one of my clients. I am not comfortable with it simply because it does not have an external safety. After the first round is chambered or fired, the Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point. I just don't like that at all. Otherwise, the Walther shoots great and is very comfortable in my hands. The lack of an external safety is very worrisome to me. Anyone here on the OB have any experience or opinions on a Walther and this issue? I will probably trade it for something else...with an external safety. TIA
Try posting this on the soccer board, you may get better answers from like minded people.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:57 am to BFIV
Keep on trollin
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:02 am to BFIV
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Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point.
So like every other gun. Oh, and the word you are looking for is "negligently".
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:03 am to maisweh
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I have this gun and my finger has never "accidentally" pressed the boom button. this is a non issue.
I'm not worried about my finger "accidentally" depressing the trigger. I am fully cognizant of firearm safety. I am concerned about the trigger being accidentally depressed by getting caught on clothing, holster, or anything. Some of yall may not be concerned with this possibility. I am. Guess I should have trusted my gut feelings from the beginning. I agree with Vette. I'm gonna sell or trade it for something else.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:04 am to BFIV
You should get one of them new fancy guns with a fingerprint scanner saftey.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:04 am to BFIV
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why does the 1911 Colt have a grip safety?
Why do folks feel the need to modify that to be larger? And heaven forbid we question Browning (a true, rare genius with firearms - a national treasure), but that was a design over 100 years ago. You know one of his refinements was to remove this for the Browning HP, right?
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I've always been a wheel gun person.
How do you keep the weapon from discharging if the cylinder is fully loaded and the trigger is accidentally depressed?
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:07 am to Ace Midnight
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Smith M&P pistols do not have external safeties.
Some models do have external safeties.
Smith & Wesson M&P9 - Full Size
Smith & Wesson M&P9c
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:07 am to Ace Midnight
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How do you keep the weapon from discharging if the cylinder is fully loaded and the trigger is accidentally depressed?
He sticks the barrel in his gaping vagina. It's used to taking discharged loads.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 10:08 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:09 am to RebelWithACause
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Some models do have external safeties.
Huh. Well, I take them off the list for consideration, then. I have the opposite position of the OP. I consider an external safety on a modern, double action pistol a negative - a necessary evil, perhaps, on blowback pistols, but even then. I'm down to 1 external safety on all pistols I own (the Makarov). 0 negligent discharges in almost 25 years of pistol ownership.
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