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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:12 am to BFIV
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the Walther can still discharge IF the trigger is accidentally depressed to a certain point.
Well, how do you think the weapon is supposed work exactly?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:15 am to BFIV
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I am concerned about the trigger being accidentally depressed by getting caught on clothing, holster, or anything. Some of yall may not be concerned with this possibility. I am.
Of course everyone is concerned with this.
Carrying a gun has a certain amount of responsibility that goes along with it. Even though its not required practice and training go along way to make someone more comfortable with weapons handling and manipulation.
Might try taking a class or something because a revolver will not solve your problems.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:17 am to Ace Midnight
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How do you keep the weapon from discharging if the cylinder is fully loaded and the trigger is accidentally depressed?
I don't carry a wheel gun with the hammer back and ready to fire. This Walther is in semi-cock after the first round and the trigger is very light. I'm just old school and the lack of an external safety bothers me.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:21 am to RebelWithACause
Thanks for the links, Rebel. I would feel much more comfortable with either of these than I am with the Walther.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:23 am to BFIV
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I don't carry a wheel gun with the hammer back and ready to fire. This Walther is in semi-cock after the first round and the trigger is very light. I'm just old school and the lack of an external safety bothers me.
I can kinda see where you are coming from since the trigger pulls are so light nowadays.
My Sig is DA on the first shot, then SA on the remaining. It is a nice little peace of mind.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:28 am to BFIV
I had a problem getting over the fact that my Sig P226 didn't have a safety. I got a really nice holster that I carry it in and I took it to the range and got comfortable with what it does and how it does it. Now I have no issues at all with sticking it in my briefcase and carrying it around every day.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:32 am to BFIV
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I don't carry a wheel gun with the hammer back and ready to fire.
Fair enough.
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This Walther is in semi-cock after the first round and the trigger is very light.
Meaning you've fired it once at that point. Honestly, I'm not familiar with this particular FCS. I owned a Walther PPK at one time, but it was a blowback design with a frame mounted safety/decocker.
I think you're searching for a reason to hate semis. There is a split, but a majority of DA/striker fired semis sold today are completely without external safeties. The classic Sigs do have a decocker, but the risk you're talking about exists even with a revolver. The irony is - a SA/DA semi without an external safety is the closest semi FCS to what you're used to with a revolver.
Different strokes. Good luck with it, baw.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:33 am to Taffeta
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I can kinda see where you are coming from since the trigger pulls are so light nowadays.
That's exactly where I'm coming from. None of my wheel guns have such a light trigger pull as the Walther. And none of my wheel guns are ever in semi-cock or full cock until I pull the trigger. I would just feel much better about this Walther or any other semi-auto if it just had a simple thumb safety. Call me a wuss, sissy, or vagina all day if that floats your boat. That's just the way I feel about the possibility of accidental discharge of this handgun.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:38 am to Ace Midnight
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This Walther is in semi-cock after the first round and the trigger is very light.
Meaning you've fired it once at that point.
Yes!
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I think you're searching for a reason to hate semis
Not really. I liked the Walther for the magazine capacity. 16 + 1 sure beats 6 + a speed loader.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:39 am to BFIV
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That's exactly where I'm coming from. None of my wheel guns have such a light trigger pull as the Walther. And none of my wheel guns are ever in semi-cock or full cock until I pull the trigger. I would just feel much better about this Walther or any other semi-auto if it just had a simple thumb safety. Call me a wuss, sissy, or vagina all day if that floats your boat. That's just the way I feel about the possibility of accidental discharge of this handgun.
BUT.. it is double action for the first shot, so there is really no excuse for an accidental discharge.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:40 am to BFIV
You do realize the PPX has 3 safeties?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:43 am to BFIV
If you're worried about this:
Then just carry a kydex holster.
Then just carry a kydex holster.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:44 am to Rickety Cricket
Or a leather holster that has a reinforced lip. My milt sparks has a metal piece sown into the mouth of the holster. Never had an issue.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:47 am to civiltiger07
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You do realize the PPX has 3 safeties?
Yes, that is what the manual says. And none of them are adequate, imho. You just need to see how easily the Walther fires after you chamber that first round and every round thereafter.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:50 am to BFIV
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I liked the Walther for the magazine capacity. 16 + 1 sure beats 6 + a speed loader.
I guess it is a pure philosophy/set in your ways deal, then. Because after you've fired it once - it seems like the light trigger pull for subsequent shots is a feature, not a bug. That, along with the higher magazine capacity are the (pardon the pun) "killer apps" for semis. Sort of "the point." The problem with all manual safeties are two fold - again, subject to human/mechanical error (they have to be manipulated/they can break/malfunction) AND folks rely on them to the detriment of safe firearm handling (IMHO).
If you're concerned about range issues and decocking a semi on a live round - with a pistol that requires you pull the trigger - that I completely understand. With Glocks - pretty much the entire safety system is in the trigger. I do like my classic Sigs that have the decocker so I do not have to develop the bad habit of pulling the trigger to decock the pistol and return it to safe condition after firing.
But, this whole concept that you prefer a long, double action pull for every single shot, even in a self-defense situation is OR you want to have to manipulate a safety lever in a life-or-death situation and if you forget, your weapon will not fire - frankly this is 19th century thinking.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:04 am to Taffeta
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BUT.. it is double action for the first shot, so there is really no excuse for an accidental discharge.
Correct. And the trigger pull is a long pull before the hammer drops. Subsequent shots require a lot less travel in the trigger. A lot less... The other poster's pic of the trigger getting caught on the holster addresses my point of concern exactly. Stuff happens.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:10 am to BFIV
So buy a decent holster.
Dont buy crap.
Like I said earlier there are certain responsibilities.
Dont buy crap.
Like I said earlier there are certain responsibilities.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:19 am to BFIV
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The other poster's pic of the trigger getting caught on the holster addresses my point of concern exactly. Stuff happens.
why are you concerned that it might hang up on the holster AFTER you've fired a round? are you really thinking you'll fire, re-holster, draw & fire again?
after you fire, just drop the mag, clear the chamber, re-load the mag, and then you are back to DA. i truly do not understand your lament
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