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New 200 HP Suzuki or Yamaha?

Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:41 am
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:41 am
My 200 is to the point I’m not spending any more money on it. Current motor is a fuel injected V6, going to switch to 4 stroke, meaning it will have to be an in-line 4 because of weight. Both motors seem to get decent reviews, some indications that the 6 year warranty on the Zukes is through a third party and not as good as it sounds, BUT they are several thousand dollars cheaper.

Also looking for recommendations for dealers somewhat close to Fourchon where I keep my boat so service is convenient. TIA
Posted by runningdog
Dawg Nation
Member since Jan 2011
798 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 8:08 am to
Can’t speak to dealers, but the Zukes are a solid choice for a repower. In SWFL a lot of the offshore guides are running Zukes. As for the Yamaha 200, I owned one and had no issues with the engine. It was quiet, sipped gas and trouble free. What more can you want?
Posted by Mister Bigfish
Member since Oct 2018
907 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 8:37 am to
They are both solid motors and I would be confident with either on my boat. Having a trusted or nearby service tech for convenience would be a deciding factor in my decision.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:05 am to
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meaning it will have to be an in-line 4 because of weight


Yamaha 200 hp I4 is 487 lbs dry
Yamaha SHO is 505 lbs dry

The I4 has low end torque issues, or lack of, but the SHO is the exact opposite of that.

Obviously the SHO will be more expensive, but its not an engine you will regret getting.
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1407 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:08 am to
Im as pro-Yamaha as it gets, but if I were you I wouldn't be afraid to go Suzuki on the re-power and save some money. You should be happy with it
Posted by SeaPickle
Thibodaux
Member since May 2011
3132 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:11 am to
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Yamaha 200 hp I4 is 487 lbs dr

I have this on my Frontier. It lacks low end but moves the 1800lb hull nicely. I get 50-53 WOT depending on load. Very fuel efficient. My fuel management system says +/- 3.25mpg cruising at 40-43mph. 2.5mpg WOT

Mine is a 2016 and havent had an issue yet. the 200sho would have been nice but i think that puts you back to a V6. Sometimes i wish i had it but i dont regret the I4 200

the zuke will have more torque for a larger prop bc of the gearing. this isnt a bad choice
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 9:12 am
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29868 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:14 am to
they are pretty much a coin flip choice and both are great engines that you wont regret buying

use price and weight to decide, all other factors are so close there is no real difference
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:30 am to
quote:

have this on my Frontier. It lacks low end but moves the 1800lb hull nicely. I get 50-53 WOT depending on load. Very fuel efficient. My fuel management system says +/- 3.25mpg cruising at 40-43mph. 2.5mpg WOT


I have the 250 SHO and my fuel management system has me just a tick under 4 mpg at 4000 RMPs and cruising just over 40 mph, at WOT I'm hovering just under 2.5 MPG and low 60's MPH.

The SHO is a 4.2 L V6, designed for low end torque and hole shot.

The only drawback in the SHO is price.

Zuke is a solid engine and better on the wallet.
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:39 am to
Suzuki's aren't bad but there is a reason they are cheaper. Start with lower units and electrical. I've personally owned both and been around many in the oilfield and fishing guide services.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14259 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:46 am to
What's the reason its cheaper? Are you saying the lower units and electrical break easily? Just asking because I have a repower in the future eventually.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11493 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:51 am to
The Yamaha 200 is a their dog in the line up. The 150 is the jewel. I am looking at boats and every dealer says the upgrade to a 200 is a waste of money over the 150. The 250 is the next jewel in the Yamaha line up. I looked at performance bulletins on a ton of boats and when you can find a hull they tested the 150 and the 200 on you only get 2-3 mph top end out of the upgrade. I don't know how true it is but I was told it is more like upgrading from a 165 to a 195 not upgrading from a 150 to a 200.

Now Suzuki vs Yamaha, if I had a better option, or well any option of a close Suzuki dealer for service I would be swayed to go that direction but right now the closest Suzuki dealer is 45 minutes away and the closest dealer with the boat and motor I would want is over 4 hours away. There is a Yamaha Master tech less than 5 miles from my house and a Yamaha Dealer in every fishing town if you need something. I feel Suzuki offers a motor that I would prefer but the Yamaha Service network is just so much better.

Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:54 am to
In my experience they break easier. Gears and shafts on the lowers and gauges but they may have fixed the gauge issue.

Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1830 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:02 am to
I’ll echo what most are saying here. The i4 200 is underwhelming and doesn’t really feel any different than a 150. There’s a company out there that makes a 475 pound v6 200 but you’re probably not going to like the name. If not getting a Merc, I would definitely get the 200 sho, it’ll blow the doors of the I-4 200.
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6883 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:14 am to
What is this fuel management system y’all speak of? Nmea 2000?
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:

What is this fuel management system y’all speak of? Nmea 2000?


Yes, I have the NEMA 2000 backbone and run all engine data to my HDS. I split screen engine data with chart, helps me track engine temp, oil pressure, econ, etc...
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
29148 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:21 pm to
I just did some research on the SHO. I like a lot of what I read, but liquid full, it’s going to be 75 extra pounds hanging out back on a boat that I’ve always fought porpoising on, even with trim tabs, so I’d be nervous about that. The hull is only 2300# so the 4 cylinder might be enough.
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1870 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:47 am to
quote:

The hull is only 2300# so the 4 cylinder might be enough.


I had a 200 sho on my frontier 2104 which weighed 1895 lbs. the boat was a rocket and got great fuel economy. the extra weight wont hurt that boat at that weight. I had a 12" jackplate as well for the 20" shaft
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6391 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:56 am to
I was in this exact situation a few months back. I had a 225 V6 HPDI previously. I decided to go with the Suzuki and I have been very impressed. I lost about 8 mph off the top end but hole shot is just as good and may be a slight better. It also sips fuel, night and day from my previous motor. Deciding factors for me were cost and warranty. Difference in price was nearly 5K and Suzuki has a 6 year warranty.

If you are worried about weight, be sure to take a look at the Mercury’s.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
29148 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:24 am to
I have a very good friend that’s a fishing guide and he wouldn’t let me back in his lodge if I got a Mercury. He has a compilation of videos of him being towed in when he bought Hank Parker’s boat with a Merc a couple of years ago, nothing but problems. Not sure where you’re located, hoping to find a good dealer in Houma or somewhere close to Fourchon.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:28 am to
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fought porpoising on, even with trim tabs, so I’d be nervous about that.


Legit concern, but I would bet your issue is less to do with the motor on the back and more to do with the hull design and/or overall weight distribution.
I suspect you will fight porposing about the same with either engine.

Put a full ice chest as far back there as you can and see if it changes the ride much.
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