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re: Morganza to the Gulf project

Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:24 am to
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24965 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:24 am to
Yeah traded the swamp for some pine trees guess my kids will grow up to be redasses and not coonasses
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:27 am to
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I bet if SoCo had to deal with the closing of the locks, it would be different.



Ah. we are right near the levee. don't get me started on the graft that I believe Harry and his friends received for this levee project. "Developing" a bunch of lots to increase the taking value of his property. No one has developed or bought shite there.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:29 am to
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nd as of yet, I've only received snarky responses and ad hominem attacks. No one has explained why my comments are short sighted and "negligent."
because you are worried about your camp when the steps being taken are for the betterment of the whole system. Have you even read any of the Morganza to the Gulf Reports and what they are doing?
Posted by Ashtray
La
Member since Apr 2017
157 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:30 am to
so, let me get this straight... its shameful to have some camps outside the levee protection at risk instead of protecting the majority of the population and your primary home inside the levee protection ?

proves one thing... there is still good crack on the street.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:31 am to
The opposite of NIMBY
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:43 am to
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I decided to leave south LA for Mississippi this year. It was a hard decision but I feared Terrebonne parish wasn’t somewhere I wanted to be 20 years from now.


we will still keep our camp in Dularge but only use it during the spring and summer....very seldom in the Winters as we are all in the woods of La, Miss and Bama
Posted by PocketLab
Thib
Member since Sep 2018
124 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:44 am to
you are correct that levees have affected water levels to a certain degree. The most significant issue affecting water levels is lack of marsh, this is causing the necessity of the levees. I also would love to protect our ecosystem but I'm afraid that is too far gone at this point and you have to draw a line somewhere or I'll have beach front property in Thibodaux.

As far as closing locks, I don't know. I guess we'll be learning about that before too much longer when the one on Falgout Canal is completed. I have heard that there is an app that is supposed to give 8 hours notice before closure, not saying thats a fact though.
Posted by Motorboat
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:45 am to
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its shameful to have some camps outside the levee protection at risk instead of protecting the majority of the population and your primary home inside the levee protection ?


where did I ever say that it is shameful you obtuse pussy fart?

I understand why they're doing it, but I also want people to understand that there are costs that will not be realized immediately. i.e. destruction of camps below the levees and probable destruction of habitat, fisheries, breeding grounds, islands and marsh. You know-- Things that traditionally offered hurricane protection.

Posted by PocketLab
Thib
Member since Sep 2018
124 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:51 am to
MB, maybe negligent was too strong of a word. Just saying that big picture Billions of dollars in economy, infrastructure and property will always win out over fishing camps. I say that as a guy who would sell everything I've got and move into mine!
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:56 am to
I'm sure you have a boat. Use the boat
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:02 am to
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Just saying that big picture Billions of dollars in economy, infrastructure and property will always win out over fishing camps.


I absolutely understand this. BUT, there is also the argument that billions of dollars lies in the ecosystem in the form of fishing, both recreational AND Commercial.

The way this levee was done was shortsighted. I doubt that ANYONE who designed and studied it disclosed to anyone that it would affect tides as much as it has. I also doubt that anyone saw that they would close the structures as often as they have. that is why this thing aggravates me so badly.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:05 am to
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but I also want people to understand that there are costs that will not be realized immediately. i.e. destruction of camps below the levees and probable destruction of habitat, fisheries, breeding grounds, islands and marsh. You know-- Things that traditionally offered hurricane protection.



SO there is it.... you have not read anything on the entire project.

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he way this levee was done was shortsighted. I doubt that ANYONE who designed and studied it disclosed to anyone that it would affect tides as much as it has. I also doubt that anyone saw that they would close the structures as often as they have. that is why this thing aggravates me so badly.
maybe you should read the reports and see what the designers did.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by Ashtray
La
Member since Apr 2017
157 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:06 am to
Wouldn't expect you to say its shameful MB.... and I fish as much as the next guy. Land loss is a fact and what the parish is doing on its own is helping save what we have. "Pussy Fart" - what you still in high school ?
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4765 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:18 am to
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I also have a marsh camp where I have spent a whole lot of time. the only time he water would go over the dock was for a nearby storm. Now, the water is over the dock consistently.


ever hear of coastal erosion and land loss?
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
4750 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:21 am to
On top of the levee projects CPRA is trying to increase the acreage of the marsh with multiple land terracing projects. They realize that there is a lack of marsh, but it's kind of at a rock and a hard place point. Do you protect the people or the ecosystem. They are trying their best to figure out a way to do both.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:48 pm to
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ever hear of coastal erosion and land loss?


Man you guys are incapable of having a discussion where someone disagrees with you. Of course I've heard of coastal erosion and land loss, but what we are observing south of the levee is caused by a man made levee. This levee will eventually contribute to more coastal land loss south of the levee.

If you are OK with that, then cool. I'm not.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:49 pm to
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maybe you should read the reports and see what the designers did.



I will but as a property owner down there, we were notified of NOTHING.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Man you guys are incapable of having a discussion where someone disagrees with you. O
there is a difference between disagreeing and being wrong about something.

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f course I've heard of coastal erosion and land loss, but what we are observing south of the levee is caused by a man made levee. This levee will eventually contribute to more coastal land loss south of the levee. If you are OK with that, then cool. I'm not.
where is your proof of this. because i do not believe you.
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I will but as a property owner down there, we were notified of NOTHING.
there were plenty of public meeting during the design and construction of this system. That is a you problem.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 2:23 pm to
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there is a difference between disagreeing and being wrong about something.



what am I wrong about?

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where is your proof of this. because i do not believe you.


My proof is my experience down there. The water is significantly higher for miles south of the levee. the incoming tide water has nowhere to go. If the water is higher, more marsh will be lost. I do not see any marsh building projects below the levee. Mark my word, the land loss south of the levee will be greater than if there were no levee.

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there were plenty of public meeting during the design and construction of this system. That is a you problem.


yeah maybe so. I'm perusing the CPRA site and there is enough information to get lost in for months. All I can tell you is that very few people in our fishing camp community on four point saw any of this coming. It was like one day they started building a levee.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 2:40 pm to
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what am I wrong about?
all of your assumptions.
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My proof is my experience down there. The water is significantly higher for miles south of the levee. the incoming tide water has nowhere to go. If the water is higher, more marsh will be lost. I do not see any marsh building projects below the levee. Mark my word, the land loss south of the levee will be greater than if there were no levee.

and 3 500 year storms have hit mexico in the past 10 years... doesnt mean that is the new norm. and im not saying the new hurricane protection system isnt effecting certain areas but not to the extend that it is gonna vanish one day from erosion.
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yeah maybe so. I'm perusing the CPRA site and there is enough information to get lost in for months
ive been doing it for years.
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All I can tell you is that very few people in our fishing camp community on four point saw any of this coming. It was like one day they started building a levee.
well this either because the community is blind or deaf or people arent taking self blame because there have been public meeting for these.
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